Increase size of CLs?

There are hundreds of small private sites catering for the EHU and HS requirement, many of them ex CL. We know, we have used four in this last year. Why don't people who are saying extend the 5 van rule use these? We found some lovely places with 10, 15, 20, 30 pitches (so not big commercial site), but we also value the 5 pitch only sites as well. It is really nice to have these tiny, unspoilt little gems. 

...As you say a lot were cls,and as I understand it they found it much easier to "convert" to a bigger site  after they had got their cl certificate  than them trying to get a site licence from the local planning authority for a site in the first place

Thanks for the info.We also use Cls and such in preference to CC sites.

,where will it end?

 

It will end with fewer and fewer CLs. 

With  more and more "small " commecial sites maybe, unless you lobby your MP to get the "act" changed

,where will it end?

 

It will end with fewer and fewer CLs. 

With  more and more "small " commecial sites maybe, unless you lobby your MP to get the "act" changed

...but getting the act changed will only make for bigger CLs. isnt one of the primary attractions that you will only have a maximum of four neighbouring vans?

also, folk keep on buying bigger and bigger vans with more and more palatial loo/washrooms and then insist that small sites should have a loo and washroom, which inevitibly drive the cost/price levels upwards...

You cannot have both either small commecial sites "converted" from CLs to give a return on the investment in the facilities that more and more expect, or have the  CL "act"changed so they can "upgrade"and get a return on the "upgrade",look at the "winter cheapies" who go to "holiday camps"instead of useing CLs,and if some think the clubs do not install "proper" m/van emptying points where do CL owners stand? as even according  some "morris leisures"brand new sites have not got it right

Spriddle should chech the facts before writing about things he knows very little about what he is writing.

No money is paid by the gouvernment to any caravan site.

Money is paid to keep the price of food down and make   sure there is a good supply

AMOBUTS, youre comparing chalk and chicken

larger commercial sites have no excuse for not getting it right when it comes to things like loos, showers and MHSP's...

they have to cater for a larger turnover and the 'precise pitching' that takes place, precludes folk wandering about with wastemasters to empty into the hedge...

on a CL its different, less formal, less territorial....

no-one would expect a fully functioning MHSP on a typical CL would they?

if we've gone beyond EHU, then loos, then showers and now MHSPs on a CL then theyre not like the ones I've been on... 

surely, CL owners want to increase footfall (to a degree) but similarly, dont they want to control costs?

Spriddle should chech the facts before writing about things he knows very little about what he is writing.

No money is paid by the gouvernment to any caravan site.

Money is paid to keep the price of food down and make   sure there is a good supply

...Im sure you're right....

...may i ask, are you married to 'health' 

but my guess ( and it may be entirely wrong) is that it's the very basic "space in a field" type sites that are more likely to be closing. 

Have just checked through the current site directory, and as of the July edition of the club's magazine, the number of Cl with EHU that have closed since Jan 2015 is over double the number of ones without EHU....111 to 53. I would suspect many of them have gone on to be commercial sites. Perhaps being a CL for a while is an easy way in to getting a commercial licence. Wonder why HO no longer publish the reasons for closure!! Perhaps they are trying to protect other CL owners by not showing which sites, perhaps favourites for some people, have not gone commercial.

you only have to witness the success of the CCC THS program  (where you get a pitch, water and waste points, usuually in a field.....at around £8 a night..) to see that the demand is still there.....

BB do you know for a fact that these rally type of events are a success? There was a West Wales Rally on a CS field near us last weekend and there could not have been more than 6 vans on it. I certainly not call that a success!!