Are CLs strictly for 5 caravans

I reported a serial overbooker last summer.

What's wrong with the CC website! It says you MUST be a CC member to stay (read a little further down), it's £16 to stay as a CC member or £13 if a CC member AND a NT member, with the option to join the NT whilst staying

Yes, you're correct Dave. Further down there is indeed the standard message about CLs being exclusively for CC members, so mystery solved. Mind you, some will doubtless bemoan the fact that some CC members end up paying more than others! 

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im fairly sure the NT has a 'relationship' with CC over a number of CLs.....you used to have to ring a central NT number to book, this then changed to ringing a number pertinent to the actual NT site....

some 'CL's dont necessarily require membership for entry, eg those run by Practical MH/caravan (nightstops) definitely dont.

I expect those CLs in the cc/nt 'group' have slightly different 'entry' regs but are definitely 5 vans...

by coincidence, i was also at Stourhead early last week and strolled round to check out the CL

i, too, asked the 'attendant' about the site and he just asked if we were NT members, i said we in the CC as well, he said something like 'even better'...

however....I was a bit disappointed as the car park had taken over most of the previous area and what was left was crammed back against a row of (shady) trees, with as little space as was allowed by the 'rules'....

so, despite being members of both orgs and interested in trying Stourhead, we felt the site itself was a bit of a let down.....now, Kingston Lacy......now youre talking

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thanks for the update....

Some say that I am confused; other say permanently so .  But what is confusing about the following? .

This morning we visited NT Stourhead, it is not too far from where we live and just a nice place to visit.  They have recently moved and upgraded their CL.  Nice position lovely surroundings, etc.

I ask how much per night and was told NT members £16.50, CC Ltd. members £16.50, but if you are a member of both organisations £13.50.  Now, I thought CL were restricted to CC Ltd members only.  

Are any of you CL aficionados able to explain the odd pricing and strange membership rules bearing in mind that even if you are not a member of either organisation you can still use NT Stourhead CL.

..First thing ,I do not understand the use of Stourhead cl by non members of either organisation?where did that come from or have i miised something?,

Second   National trust members are allowed on any cc site or cl at cc members rates if they are on National trust property 

 

I reported what I was told and I strongly resent your suggestion that it is not true.  

Deleted UserUser, whilst not wishing to offend you, the fact is that what you were told regarding none members been allowed access to CC CL's is not true-

Rule 1:  Visitors to your CL must be members of the Caravan Club (Club Rule) 
This is a condition of your certificate, breach of which could also put your cover at risk should a claim arise under your public liability insurance.  All members carry a membership card, renewed annually on the anniversary date of joining, so please ask to see this as evidence of current membership.  Check the expiry date and note the member’s name, address, telephone number and membership number in your booking-in diary, just in case any queries arise.  Quite a lot of members complain to us that owners do not ask to see their cards.  They like to know that CLs are for their exclusive use! 

I expect those CLs in the cc/nt 'group' have slightly different 'entry' regs but are definitely 5 vans...

Vulcan, I suspect BB is right, the NT is THE major land owner in this country and probably carries a lot of clout when it come to deciding who can and cannot use CLs on its land. JVB seems to confirm this.

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these are the exemption classes for camping orgs.....

Caravan club exemptions

There are 3 types of exemption for caravan clubs. You’ll need to state which exemption you want in your application form.

 

i guess its possible that CC/NT have 'their' joint sites exempted under the 'type' below.....and have agreed (with NT as landowner) that these sites can accommodate non members as in the note in bold below, this is how the 'Nightstops' scheme is operated.

 

Approved sites exemption

This is known as a paragraph 5 exemption.

With this exemption, your organisation can select sites for its members to stay on, by issuing certificates to the landowner or occupier. These certificates are valid for up to 1 year. 

Non-members are allowed to stay on the site if your club and the landowner agree to it.

You’ll need to:

• set a maximum limit of 5 caravans at a time for each site
• have a system for consulting neighbours and the local licensing authority (Natural England, or the Scottish or Welsh governments) before issuing a certificate
• have a system for inspecting the sites and dealing with complaints from the public
• send copies of the certificates you issue to Natural England, or the Scottish or Welsh governments (depending on where your club is based)