Are CLs really members only

peedee replied on 03/01/2016 13:01

Posted on 03/01/2016 13:01

What is the official line? On and off over the years I have noticed the Guidance Notes issued by the various government agency have, to say the least, been inconsistent. I see the Government itself has now produced the latest note which can be read >here< and it says,

“Non-members are allowed to stay on the site if your club and the landowner agree to it.”

Do CL owners have a choice in the matter or does the Club insist on members only as a condition of giving the certificate?

peedee

 

replied on 03/01/2016 20:54

Posted on 03/01/2016 20:54

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JVB66 replied on 03/01/2016 20:55

Posted on 03/01/2016 20:55

I don’t know what the official line is but imagine that buried in the terms of their exemption from local planning restraints is a need for them to be used by members of the holding certificate only. I’d not be the least surprised to find non-members on a site, however. Many CL owners do not check for membership cards and would be reluctant to turn away business.

Write your comments here...Whilst I have had to quote my membership number when booking I can't remember the last time I showed it to a CL owner.

...But surely its only good manners to offer your card when paying for your stay ,rather than the owner to have to ask to see it

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 03/01/2016 22:16

Posted on 03/01/2016 22:16

I've never taken my card to CL's nor been asked for proof. If the owner asked for my membership number-no problem. I would not be as helpful if some random individual accosted me like some ticket inspector-I'd say no. What's He gonna do?, ring the PoliceLaughing

kellysdad replied on 03/01/2016 22:54

Posted on 03/01/2016 22:54

I've never taken my card to CL's nor been asked for proof. If the owner asked for my membership number-no problem. I would not be as helpful if some random individual accosted me like some ticket inspector-I'd say no. What's He gonna do?, ring the PoliceLaughing

No, but he isn't a "Random person" he is a caravan club official whose job it is to ensure that CLs are used as meant to be and run along the proper lines of the Exemption Certificates granted to CL owners. Kellysmum

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rdchair replied on 04/01/2016 00:39

Posted on 04/01/2016 00:39

I have been to 18 CL sites this year and not one has asked for a card on arrival, only one asked if I was a member when booking. I have also been on CCC sites and not been asked for id.

 

 

peedee replied on 04/01/2016 07:02

Posted on 04/01/2016 07:02

The CL owner does not have a choice as regards breaking the terms of the exemption agreement with the authorities (not The CC), if he accepts non members.

That is not how I read the guidance Vulcan.

“Non-members are allowed to stay on the site if your club and the landowner agree to it.”

To me that says it is down to the Club who certify the site as to what is imposed with the agreement of the landowner.

I appreciate it is normal to involve the council in the decision to grant a certificate but what if the Land owner does not agree to the restriction? There is at least one Club who does not impose any restrictions, the MCC

What I am really trying to get at is what is the CC policy and is this consistently applied across the CL network because as many of us are aware very little checks are actually made and most of us know someone who has used a CL/CS and have not been members.

peedee

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/01/2016 08:03

Posted on 04/01/2016 08:03

KD, to you maybe that, to me that person is just random. A layer of petty officialdom that I don't recognise, with no powers over me. I don't stick my nose into the workings of others lives nor do I expect them to bother me.

AndyNYorks replied on 04/01/2016 08:45

Posted on 04/01/2016 08:45

The CC rules do not allow non-members to use CLs. Any CL owner who allows it is liable to lose his certificate.Even though the law would allow non-members the Club does not.The membership fee is in part used to support the CL network through the site advisors and advertising in the handbook and on the website so why should someone who has not contributed to this be permitted to take advantage? If a CL owner wants to take non-members they should apply for a commercial site licence from the council.

rogher replied on 04/01/2016 09:01

Posted on 04/01/2016 09:01

I wouldn’t do anything that might result in a CL being closed. We need as many as possible. If a site was full to overcrowding due to non-members I might report it to the Club, but I’m unlikely to know who is a member or not.

JVB66 replied on 04/01/2016 09:03

Posted on 04/01/2016 09:03

not as rude as cl owners who take more than 5 vans

...But are they all members?the cl owner where we stayed over xmas admitted that at times they had an extra as the booking pattern had changed over recent years where people book sat to sat or sun can some times mean 6 on an odd sat  

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