Posted on 18/11/2021 11:11
Users of CLs may be interested to know that a number of questions relevant to the CL network were posed at the AGM and answered by the club.
They can be found here.
https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/about-us/agm/2021-agm-questions-and-answers/
Posted on 23/11/2021 11:25 by JVB66The problem with adding more facilities that encourage? More water usage not only would cost rise as the sites are mostly on cess pits for waste and effluent, ,would the cost of installing the add water and waste drainage. be able to see a return on the money spent?
One site some friends of ours ran was already having the tanks emptied weekly at over £200 a go and that was about 15years ago
Posted on 23/11/2021 12:29
JVB
I would question whether you would use more water on a serviced pitch, we don't but just have the convenience of having it on tap. (we always use our own facilities regardless of facilities on site) Hebden Bridge is a good example of a no facility site where they have added a few serviced pitches. It was before COVID we were there but I think we paid about £20 a night for a serviced pitch which is on a par with most CL's providing similar facilities. I suspect the limit for this becoming more widespread is the question of leases. If they can sort Northbrook Farm out I think they plan to have some serviced pitches there but otherwise keep it a no facility site.
David
Posted on 23/11/2021 08:18 by peedeeThey have however chosen to attract more customers by offering serviced pitches.
and are not put off by having their electricity usage metered.
peedee
Posted on 23/11/2021 12:43
That's the thing isn't it though PD, choice, club sites have one set up CL's have another. I am a big fan of choice. You appear to want everything the same, everyone to have meters, or at least the club. I don't know if you write in to hotels and the CCC in a like manner?
You're a big fan of meters but others are not yet you want everyone to have them at great cost to the club for no real return.
And as you've now stated you don't need club sites to have a good holiday use those sites that have meters and let those who like the current set up carry one. Everyone then wins?
Posted on 23/11/2021 12:29 by DavidKlyneJVB
I would question whether you would use more water on a serviced pitch, we don't but just have the convenience of having it on tap. (we always use our own facilities regardless of facilities on site) Hebden Bridge is a good example of a no facility site where they have added a few serviced pitches. It was before COVID we were there but I think we paid about £20 a night for a serviced pitch which is on a par with most CL's providing similar facilities. I suspect the limit for this becoming more widespread is the question of leases. If they can sort Northbrook Farm out I think they plan to have some serviced pitches there but otherwise keep it a no facility site.
David
Posted on 22/11/2021 23:20 by KjellNNI am certainly not confused over EHU or not, give me some credit!!!
There is no need for anyone to book a serviced pitch, if they have them, on a Club no facilities site. Such pitches will obviously cost more. But families may well prefer them and wish to pay the extra charge, it will still be less expensive than a "full fat" site. If you look at Englewthaite Hall, the serviced pitches are very popular.You are saying that Cholsey Grange has had to become a "mini club site" to attract customers to survive as a viable concern, I am saying that this is not correct. They are not a mini club site as they have no facilities block, which the vast majority of Club sites do have. They have however chosen to attract more customers by offering serviced pitches.
Many of us who use a lot of CLs do appreciate a serviced pitch, especially as we approach 80 years of age. It makes life on site a lot easier, as you will agree as a very frequent user of serviced pitches.
We , and I am sure many others, will use CLs even though they do not have serviced pitches, after all, with only 5 vans on the site, it is unlikely to be a long walk to fetch water or empty waste.
A CL having serviced pitches, or not having them, would not make any difference to us if they were where we wanted to be. As I said before..........a serviced pitch is a bonus, not an essential as far as we are concerned.
Posted on 23/11/2021 14:04
K all good stuff but with respect one point:
I am saying that this is not correct
Now I have my point of view and you have yours and I respect yours but I have not made a factual, arithmetical, scientific, or whatever, error that is incorrect. Your view is not the correct one any more than mine is.
Posted on 23/11/2021 14:29
But some people are more correct than others....
I believe CLs aren't now represented on the CAMC executive so they can hardly be classified as "mini-club" sites, they are privately owned and privately run.
I see the C&CC is building an area for CS owners on their web site, should this be the way forward for CAMC too?
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Posted on 23/11/2021 14:29 by brueBut some people are more correct than others....
I believe CLs aren't now represented on the CAMC executive so they can hardly be classified as "mini-club" sites, they are privately owned and privately run.
I see the C&CC is building an area for CS owners on their web site, should this be the way forward for CAMC too?
Posted on 23/11/2021 15:42
indeed, but I didn't say all were, just the one described a few pages back. If one was standing on that site, what would look different to a club site?
Actually I do know, there would be working wifi. Yes Ok I admit I was totally wrong
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Posted on 23/11/2021 20:00
Cholsey Grange wrote "Implemented deposits to reduce no-shows."
that's how I thought it would work...apparently the complete opposite happened with the club...they removed deposits and no shows dropped...
why would the two sets of customers react so differently?
I know, I don't understand either...
Posted on 23/11/2021 20:00 by young thomasCholsey Grange wrote "Implemented deposits to reduce no-shows."
that's how I thought it would work...apparently the complete opposite happened with the club...they removed deposits and no shows dropped...
why would the two sets of customers react so differently?
I know, I don't understand either...
Posted on 23/11/2021 20:12
It may well be as i have been told the differences in the size of site compaire to CLs aven one no show at a cl could be at least a fifth of a days income
I have also been told that there has been an increase in club site no shows this year and am not being anti "dark side"but according to site staff the majority have been new members with motorised caravans and campers,that in the past was minimal compared to when deposits were taken in the past
Posted on 22/11/2021 12:27 by CornersteadyAn interesting post. What you're saying is that to attract custom you have to offer fully service HS pitches and wifi. It's interesting because there are posters on here who appear to want the opposite (and let me say there is nothing wrong with that) and club sites offer too much - full fat as it's called. Yet you are saying you get more custom and return custom by offering more.
Posted on 23/11/2021 20:28
I'd hardly call the typical club fare as 'full fat'....green top, possibly..😉.....only kidding, lol
IMHO, 'sites' come into a number of categories...aires...aires with services, THS/CL, CL with services, Club sites (pitch hook up, toilets/shower), typical commercial (like club site but more other elements, shop etc) full fat site with several pitch types, inl serviced, shop, bar, restaurant, pool, kids area, sports area, bike hire etc, and even some with fully automated reception (eg can deal with meter reading via remote system)...
There are still plenty of folk who want sites at all points on the above spectrum.
CL stalwarts who are happy in a field...we like fields too...
Club site regulars who like the Club way...we use them too..
proper, full fat commercials (and typical overseas standard sites) still have their fans...include us too...
we don't use one 'type' of site...we like most and much will depend on where it sits with our itinerary unless it's a destination site..
Neither a fully serviced pitch offering or 'wifi' would entice us somewhere we didn't want to be...we carry enough water for 6-12 days depending on services and have mobile wifi for our online access.
however, I see nothing wrong with any site owner, incl CAMC, improving a site by adding facilities...it's just that, for us, we don't go there for 'the wifi'.
CholseyGrange