Swift Elegance caravans

Hi pande. I have an Elegance 580 and have had no problems with the external LED lights. I tow with a Volvo XC90 previously a 2011 model now a 2017 model so relatively new cars. May this be your problem? Does your car have the single connection or the double set of connectors with a converters? Sorry I can't be more help.

Hi pande, this is nothing to do with Elegance, but the cause is the Led lighting. You will probably require a VLM box to be fitted in your caravan. Sergeant electrical who provide the components to Swift will be able to talk you through it and provide the box.

I am assuming you have no dealer to speak to. Hope that has helped.

Ken

I tow with a Kia Sorento and there is no problem.Towbar wiring is through a standard bypass relay.Our company Shogun 2017 with dealer fitted towbar is not compatable with the led road lights!!It seems that certain towcars need the Sargent "fix" to the caravan whilst others have no problem!!

I think it's all to do with what they call the "can-bus" electrics. some cars need an adapter connected to the rear lights. its a plug in piece. you remove the standard plug, plug in adapter that's made for that vehicle,  and reconnect the standard plug again. know as piggy back connector.

A 'thank you' to you all for your replies, re LED indicator lights on my Swift Elegance.

To expand on what I perceive is a fundamental problem:

1. I purchased my Elegance approx. 4 years ago, my towcar was a Mazda 6 and all lighting, including indicator lights worked perfectly.

2. I subsequently changed my towcar to a Honda CR-V and I immediately experienced problems with the malfunction of the indicator lights.

3. Consulting my dealer, he fitted a Sargent VLM LED module A3 to the caravan electrics which solved the problem.

4. But I still have two concerns: Firstly, my dealer can no longer tow my Elegance from home to his workshops for servicing etc because our caravan is not compatible with his towcar. He informs me that there are 6 versions of the Sargent device, each version relating to a specific UK towcar.

Clearly, this situation is going to be tricky should I wish to sell the caravan. The chances are that the prospective purchaser will not have a towcar which is compatible with the Elegance

Secondly, if for any reason I should suffer a breakdown whilst towing, UK or abroad, there is every chance that the caravan indicators will not work if a tow to a garage is required.  Tricky!!

Does anyone have any thoughts on this conundrum?

can you get a towbar fitter to test the electrics on the car. they usually have a prewired tail board with everything on it including testing the charging circuit and fridge function. this will then let you know that at least the vehicle is wired correctly ( which I don't think it is ). you should be able to tow any van without messing with the van/car electrics.  

Hi, pande don't see any problem. You tow it to your dealer for any services? If you decide to sell the van at a future date, any buyer will have to decide whether to fit a new VLM box if required. Lastly if you did have a break down and the van wouldn't go on a flatbed then any tow truck driver would have a rear indicator board.

Each VLM covers quiet a few styles of car A3 works on Discovery 2 but doesn't on a VW Touareg (2014) they don't need them.

Steve

Strange my Honda CRV 2013 had no problems at all connecting up to our Conqueror 2016 led lights.

Salop Leisure Shrewsbury  have a test board which they link up to your 13pin electrics prior to collection, then finally connected up the the caravan on collection.

Again new Ford Kuga no problems.

Hi Pande,

We Have purchased a Swift Elegance 650, 6 weeks ago, and has not been the best start so far. We have had, and we are still having electrical issues.

The rear light issue and also interior lights flickering when taps turned on/off

continous Alarm triggering issue, the van has been back 3 times in 6 weeks and no further forward.

rear lights, Vlm4 module fitted but no fix the a vlm6 module fitted all appeared Okay at first, indicate and break and every so often it triggers both indicators, the power supply app also now shows car battery using 0.1v when unplugged from the car it’s only a small amount but even still it looks like this fix has a power supply bridge issue, 

internal light issue seems to have been sorted with a plugin fix ?

swift appear to be having more than one teathing issue with their swift command / Sargent partnership. 

that's got me worrying as pick my elegance 650 up in about 2 months.