Spanish trip

marley1 replied on 23/06/2023 11:15

Posted on 23/06/2023 11:15

We have a 2008 Autotrail Dakota Motorhome with a 3 litre engine.

we would like to travel to Spain through France and just wondering if anyone has any tips/ advice on these emissions etc . We have been a bit put off with the fear of getting large fines ! .

Has anyone got any advice who goes regularly in an outfit of this size please .

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marley1 replied on 26/06/2023 07:36

Posted on 25/06/2023 13:12 by peedee

I costed it out as £800 one way ferry fare plus £150 in fuel for the 500 miles to travel Bilbao to the Murcia region. I  have ignored the night stop at Zaragosa and the departure port because for me, regardless of which route I took, its the same cost. From Calais by road it is about 1150 miles which for me works out at at about £370 in fuel. (21m.pg. at £1.5 per litre) so £370+£150 le Shuttle faire, total £520. It amounts to a bigger saving than I thought even allowing for cost of night stops, which are usually very minor when using the Aires. I avoid the tolls. An Auto-Trail Dakota would be charged class 3 tolls in France so like me you may want to also avoid the tolls. Where in Spain do you intend to head for?

peedee

Posted on 26/06/2023 07:36

Costa Brava

eurortraveller replied on 26/06/2023 08:28

Posted on 26/06/2023 07:36 by marley1

Costa Brava

Posted on 26/06/2023 08:28

About 650 miles from Caen ferryport to Costa Brava - using as much or as little motorway mileage as you wish, but some bits of motorway are sensible.

young thomas replied on 26/06/2023 08:42

Posted on 26/06/2023 07:36 by marley1

Costa Brava

Posted on 26/06/2023 08:42

Succinct😉

several other questions were posed to help with route...starting point, preference for long driving over sailing, trip duration, desire to visit places en route etc...

I also did the 'comparison' re the long ferry back from Spain this April and, for us heading back from the Valencia region to the West Country, there was very little in the cost or the timings between Bilbao to Portsmouth or the drive to (say) Cherbourg for the Poole ferry.

also, the outward Santander ferry has two nights on board, whereas the Bilbao return had just one. The long trips were a change...heading south can be a bit soulless through France in Jan/Feb...as, like AD, we had access to the Commodore Lounge and can't remember ever eating so much on a ferry....

BTW, both sailings were of the 'millpond' variety....

having said that, France is a wonderful country to 'bimble about in' should you decide to take your time and get used to why this country is known as Motorhome Heaven....check out the Aires system and pause and smell the flowers, as they say....

good luck.

marley1 replied on 26/06/2023 09:21

peedee replied on 26/06/2023 09:29

Posted on 26/06/2023 09:29

Marley, When going to the Costa Brava I usually drive through central France to Toulouse, Narbonne and Perpignan and then use the A9 to cross the Pyrenees to the Cosat Brava, a journey of about 800 miles. It is a while since I last did the route but to give your a flavour of it, have a look at my blog >here,< days 4 to 7.  I do not think you will be able to go via Rouen because of the age of your Dakota there being a driving ban with stickers 4, 5 and without sticker. If this is the case I would leave the A26 at Neufchatel en Bray and take the road to Forges Les Eaux, Les Andleys and Dreux to get you back on the route through central France.

Hope it helps.

peedee

peedee replied on 27/06/2023 07:21

Posted on 27/06/2023 07:21

I am surprised no one picked up my error above, the heat must be making everyone dozey! I though while making a correction I would embelish it some more. I wrote:

I do not think you will be able to go via Rouen because of the age of your Dakota there being a driving ban with stickers 4, 5 and without sticker. If this is the case I would leave the A26 at Neufchatel en Bray and take the road to Forges Les Eaux, Les Andleys and Dreux to get you back on the route through central France.

it is of course the toll free A28 which you take from Abbeville to Rouen not the A26 , therefore I have modified the above to read:

I do not think you will be able to go via Rouen because of the age of your Dakota. The low emission zone now in place does not permit transit of vehicles with crit air stickers lower than 3 i.e you may get fined if you do not have a sticker or one showing only category  4 or 5. To avoid Rouen leave the A28 at Neufchatel en Bray (junction 10) and take the D915 to Forges les Eaux and Gournay en Bray then the D916 to Les Andelys, followed by the D313 and D316 to join the N154 near Evreux and the central route south to Dreux and beyond. I used to use this route when visiting the vets at Forges les Eaux on the way home when we had a dog with us.

FYI there are two very good motorhome Aires if you need them. One at Neufchatel en Bray which is part of Camping St Claire and the other at Forges les Eaux. Both have EHU. There is also a good camp site at Les Andelys, Camping I'lles des Trois Roi.

peedee

Rufs replied on 27/06/2023 08:05

Posted on 27/06/2023 08:05

"it is of course the toll free A28 which you take from Abbeville to Rouen not the A26 "

must admit have become very lazy when it comes to reading maps and knowing road numbers, now a days i tend to plug into satnav and go, I have one where you can plug in your caravan details and it sort of takes care of the rest laughing

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