Towbars and Towing Mirrors

Daisy2 replied on 08/01/2018 20:57

Posted on 08/01/2018 20:57

Evening all

I'm after more advice please!  The motorhome is now officially up for sale, and I collect our new-to-us caravan at the end of the month.  My car is due to have a towbar fitted next weekend and the company doing the fitting asked if it was for an Al-ko hitch.  I said no, but it has a Winterhoff stabiliser fitted (bpw chassis).  They advised I would still need the Al-ko towball.  I called the caravan dealer to confirm if this was correct and I'm sure the person I spoke with knew less about towing than me, and I know next to nothing!  So eventually we arrived at the Al-ko towball is fine as the fit is standard and if I change the caravan (not something I'm planning given we haven't bought this one yet!) it would probably have an Al-ko next time as that seems to be the current 'standard', so my towbar would be ready. I'm less convinced by that argument than the fact that I think both Al-ko and Winterhoff would require a dry (rather than greased) towball?

So now I'm seeking the guidance of people that actually know what they are talking about (you!) and wonder if you could confirm for me please what I need?

Also, towing mirrors.  I used the Milenco Aero mirrors on my towing lesson (not in my car) but found myself only using the wing mirrors because being quite short I had the seat quite a long way forwards, and to look in the towing mirrors I felt like I was having to twist to use them.  I'm hoping that once I'm in my own car my driving position will be better suited to the addition of towing mirrors.  However, I came across the Milenco Grand Aero 3 (flat) mirrors and wondered if I might find these easier, especially as I'm used to the larger mirrors on the motorhome?  So any opinions on the standard Aero 3 versus the Grand Aero 3?

Thanks as always

Daisy2

watto64 replied on 14/08/2022 19:48

Posted on 31/07/2022 10:01 by eribaMotters

The fit of the cast aluminium arm is very precise, also cushioned by a neoprene type foam. The clamp [on mine] pitches firmly around the outmost edge of the mirror body. I do not believe a potential crack would be an issue.

 

Colin

Posted on 14/08/2022 19:48

Whilst away staying at the Millpond CCC site these past 10 days and browsing tinternet for emuk mirrors reviews etc. a BMW X4 rocks up fitted with these mirrors. 

The chap was more than happy to show me how simply and  precisely these fit. The BMW recommended them.  I imagine the initial setup will take some time but the speed, simplicity and security of fitment will be worth it.. 

The UK website selling via holland states that the price qouted includes all duties for shipping to the UK..

 

Amesford replied on 15/08/2022 16:59

Posted on 15/08/2022 16:59

Our present towing mirrors are getting on and have been used on our last 5 towing cars but whilst fitting them on our last trip one the rubber straps broke but luckily we manged to purchase replacement straps 

BJ61 replied on 16/08/2022 16:47

Posted on 16/08/2022 16:47

Regarding towing mirrors. We have just changed our car to a Volvo XC40. Have bought a set of EMUK towing mirrors from a website called EMUK who are based in Netherlands. I have towed for many years and always had the extension mirror fixed alongside the car wing mirror horizontally, and have got on ok. On the pictures that I’ve seen that come with the mirrors, they seem to fit the mirrors upright and on the end of a long arm. Is there an advantage that I’m missing in having the mirrors upright and right on the end of the arm? It seems unnecessary to have the mirrors sticking out so far and dangerous when parking at a stopover en route to your destination. Before I cut some off the end of the arm, I’d like to know what other people do.



eribaMotters replied on 17/08/2022 20:15

Posted on 17/08/2022 20:15

I like the vertical set-up of the mirror as it gives me a good vertical view down the side of the van including the tyres contact with the road. 

Our Eriba is narrow,  so I cut about 30mm or so off the arms as they are very long.  I could have cut more off but thought about if I bought a "normal"  van at a later date.

 

Colin

watto64 replied on 04/09/2022 07:53

Posted on 16/08/2022 16:47 by BJ61

Regarding towing mirrors. We have just changed our car to a Volvo XC40. Have bought a set of EMUK towing mirrors from a website called EMUK who are based in Netherlands. I have towed for many years and always had the extension mirror fixed alongside the car wing mirror horizontally, and have got on ok. On the pictures that I’ve seen that come with the mirrors, they seem to fit the mirrors upright and on the end of a long arm. Is there an advantage that I’m missing in having the mirrors upright and right on the end of the arm? It seems unnecessary to have the mirrors sticking out so far and dangerous when parking at a stopover en route to your destination. Before I cut some off the end of the arm, I’d like to know what other people do.



Posted on 04/09/2022 07:53

We have recently purchased EMUK mirrors for our XC90 and although expensive very pleased with them. We used suck n see mirrors for over 15 years but the XC90 mirror casings are very deep and left limited adjustment.

I shortened the arms by 90mm and used the mirrors vertically, as EM says you can see your caravan tyres on bends but still wide enough to see way past the caravan. I did a solo drive trying the mirrors horizontally and the 'wide screen' image dident feel right.

Even with the arm shortened i still have room to move them out if we ever have a wider caravan.

I added some thin foam padding to the small clamp face to avoid any paint damage

And in my opinion they also look great..

cyberyacht replied on 05/09/2022 21:12

Posted on 05/09/2022 21:12

I wish ALL caravaners would fit mirrors. Followed a big Volvo estate the other day towing a wide caravan. He couldn't see anything behind him.

BJ61 replied on 07/09/2022 12:53

Posted on 04/09/2022 07:53 by watto64

We have recently purchased EMUK mirrors for our XC90 and although expensive very pleased with them. We used suck n see mirrors for over 15 years but the XC90 mirror casings are very deep and left limited adjustment.

I shortened the arms by 90mm and used the mirrors vertically, as EM says you can see your caravan tyres on bends but still wide enough to see way past the caravan. I did a solo drive trying the mirrors horizontally and the 'wide screen' image dident feel right.

Even with the arm shortened i still have room to move them out if we ever have a wider caravan.

I added some thin foam padding to the small clamp face to avoid any paint damage

And in my opinion they also look great..

Posted on 07/09/2022 12:53

Thanks for your opinion on the EMUK mirrors. I have shortened ours and they seem ok. Will be trying them out on a first trip soon.

 

JVB66 replied on 07/09/2022 13:31

Posted on 07/09/2022 13:31

When we sold our caravan to a dealer yesterday  another LV user was picking up his caravan.that had been serviced and was unaware that it was illegal to  tow without extension. mirrors as he said he can see behind although it was not as good until he fitted them

Tinwheeler replied on 07/09/2022 13:48

Posted on 07/09/2022 13:48

Perhaps it’s worth pointing out again that it is not a legal requirement to fit extension mirrors but it is illegal to tow without having the stipulated field of vision. In practice, this nearly always means fitting extra mirrors but the absence of them does not in itself put the driver in breach of the law.

EmilysDad replied on 07/09/2022 19:39

Posted on 07/09/2022 19:39

I want to know why .... when I refit my driver's Milenco mirror it's set just as it was before removal but the passenger side never is. And ... when the passenger mirror is tweaked so I see down the side of the caravan it always seems to then move a little after we've set off 

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