Nose weights and A-frame length

Haych replied on 15/02/2018 10:54

Posted on 15/02/2018 10:54

I'm not a novice to towing by any means but I changed the van last year to a continental van, a Knaus Sudwind.  The new van has a much longer A-frame than my previous UK built van and I struggle to get a decent nose weight.

Based on the 5-7% rule the nose weight should be in the region of 65 - 90KG for it's MTPLM (1300KG).  If I load the van appropriately I can get the nose weight up in the 70-75KG region which I always used as a benchmark on my previous van.  However, the ride in the car is a little choppy, shall we say.  

I imagine that's because the longer a-frame has greater leverage on the rear of the car, so the greater the weight on the towball the more effect it's going to have on the ride over uneven road surfaces.

The manufacturer, Knaus, has the recommended nose weight of 40KG.  This seems a bit on the light side to me and I worry that it might be unstable, especially on motorways passing, or being passed by, large vehicles.

I've never had a stability issue with any van I've towed, and I attribute that to being conscious of how the payload is distributed and by trying to get a good nose weight, erring on the side of slightly heavier (within the car's limit) is better than too light.  

However, I accept that I probably haven't got something quite right in this instance in the trade off between the longer A-frame of the van and the effect that has on the nose weight required for a stable outfit while at the same time retaining a decent ride in the car.

Could anyone offer me the benefit of their knowledge and experience please?

I don't doubt Knaus know what they're doing and 40KG might be ok but I'm also aware that Germany might have slightly different guidelines and limits on what a nose weight should be and what any given car's towball limit should be.

Thanks in advance.

xtrailman replied on 21/02/2018 08:28

Posted on 20/02/2018 18:54 by indoors

Don't know how that works, ask the experts ( Generally German caravan manufacturers ). After owning eight Hymer brand caravans since 2001, we on returning to the Uk purchased a Coachman VIP 560/4, it was without doubt the worst caravan I have ever towed ( it lasted 3 months ). Distance between axle and rear end was IMO far too long compared with the distance between axle and hitch.

The OP doesn't mention what tow vehicle is being used, which is also critical to a safe, comfortable tow.

Regards a longer A frame taking up more road space, hows that work ?

Posted on 21/02/2018 08:28

By being longer.

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