Land Rover DPF issues

Bluemalaga replied on 12/05/2018 10:00

Posted on 12/05/2018 10:00

My car has been with my dealer for nearly 4 weeks waiting for Land Rover to authorise a warranty replacement of the DP Filter following an amber warning followed within 2 miles of a red Filter full warning.

Land Rover assist were called late afternoon and arrived close to 5.00pm .Checks carried out showed that the filter was at a level that could be regenerated by the technician. However as it was late in his shift, he was not able to do so as it was time to go home. He advised it would be ok to drive 4 miles home and his colleague would attend first thing the following day. The second technician ran some tests and found the filter now to blocked to carry out a re-gen and the car would need to be transported to the dealer where it still sits.

I was advised by the dealer that the filter would need to be replaced and it would be very expensive, Land Rover were asked to cover the cost of replacement but after three weeks of claiming that no case had been raised, they declined claiming that the cause was the driving style and that diesel cars are purchased by people intending to drive at 70mph for long periods.

I have had the car for 2 years without an issue, so doubt very much if the driving style is the issue or it would have surfaced earlier.

I would be very interested to hear specifically from and member who has had similar experience with a Land Rover. I am looking for supporting evidence that Land Rover are using this excuse to avoid warranty claims, as there appears to be some accounts online.

Very grateful for only Land Rover related replies in this case.

flatcoat replied on 14/05/2018 19:23

Posted on 14/05/2018 19:23

It is more of a preventative measure than a cure. Unless you drive regularly on the m/way at speed, the best itslian tune up is to drive for at least 20 miles and keeping the revs upwards of 3000rpm (hold in a lower gear). As referred to earlier use premium fuels and the occasional bottle of Millers or Forte fuel system cleaner (or better still separate injector, turbo and DPF cleaner in each of 3 successive tanks) will also help keep the engine in optimum condition. The added cost of premium fuel and cleaners is less than replacing the DPF, turbo, EGR or injectors...

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 14/05/2018 19:46

Posted on 14/05/2018 19:23 by flatcoat

It is more of a preventative measure than a cure. Unless you drive regularly on the m/way at speed, the best itslian tune up is to drive for at least 20 miles and keeping the revs upwards of 3000rpm (hold in a lower gear). As referred to earlier use premium fuels and the occasional bottle of Millers or Forte fuel system cleaner (or better still separate injector, turbo and DPF cleaner in each of 3 successive tanks) will also help keep the engine in optimum condition. The added cost of premium fuel and cleaners is less than replacing the DPF, turbo, EGR or injectors...

Posted on 14/05/2018 19:46

It all seems a bit extreme for a modern Diesel engine, what a pallava☹️

eurortraveller replied on 15/05/2018 08:57

Posted on 14/05/2018 17:40 by Bluemalaga

Hi Flatcoat.

Good news, I went to the dealership today in the hope of resolving the problem without having to shell out hard earned cash. I was told that they would fix it today free of charge. It appears that putting the car onto another computer gave a much lower reading which allowed a re- generation to take place which unblocked the filter and coupled with a new sensor, all should be well.

Fingers crossed, picked up the car late afternoon.

By the way, what is an Italian tune up?

Posted on 15/05/2018 08:57

Glad you are sorted - but did  it really take a JLR dealer nearly four weeks to do that?  I can find you a more efficient one  down here.  

flatcoat replied on 15/05/2018 12:56

Posted on 15/05/2018 12:56

It is upto you but in my view (formed after driving diesels for 31 years, about 700,000 miles and owning about 30 different ones in that time - but what do I know) very necessary for a modern diesel if you want to keep engine in optimum condition and avoid costly repair bills.... modern diesels are very sophisticated engines with complex control systems. All unlike 31 years ago when I started dieseling with a 1.6D Passat which would run perfectly fine on neat chip fat oil and any other rubbish fuel i could find. However If you are the sort of owner who does 10k miles a year tootling around you run a very high chance of DPF and other problems. And if like me you drive 20K+ miles a year and keep your car a long time (200k miles) it will still reduce the likelihood and expense of fuel pump, EGR, DPF, injector problems at high mileage.... 

As for efficient JL/R dealers i am sure they exist.....somewhere.... personally i would find a good independant specialist who knows what they are doing, rather than simply relying on 'the computer says....'.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 15/05/2018 13:52

Posted on 15/05/2018 13:52

I’m in my 6th year with my DPF fitted vehicle, I don’t thrash it, I’ve put nothing but S/mkt fuel in it, yet it runs like a dream. So well that I’ve not changed it after 3/4yrs as I usually do. I don’t doubt you are knowledgeable about Diesels FC just not every Diesel would be my guess👍🏻🤔.

Metheven replied on 15/05/2018 15:29

Posted on 15/05/2018 15:29

Had three new Landrovers and all with DPF's, the last one when I took early retirement and that meant tootling around country roads for two years, sometimes less than 30 minutes in time.

Never had a DPF warning either when working or in retirement, and never had or needed to force a regeneration. Seems to me a dodgy sensor gave a dodgy signal that the DPF had no need of a regeneration, when it actually needed one and consequently ruined the filter.

Tinwheeler replied on 15/05/2018 18:10

Posted on 15/05/2018 18:10

We, too, have had numerous diesels with DPFs and not had problems. They burn themselves clean when needed but, like all vehicles, seem to benefit performance wise from a work out occasionally although it’s not essential by any means.

FC, you’re not alone in having diesels for donkeys years but I’m dumbfounded by your recommendations.

flatcoat replied on 15/05/2018 22:10

Posted on 15/05/2018 22:10

The first DPF equipped car I bought in 2008 was a 2007 SAAB 9-3 Tid and was a total pain in the proverbial for constant DPF issues, fortunately all warranty covered but I got rid after a few months and I vowed never to have another diesel with a DPF. Until 5 years ago I managed to avoid a DPF and it is now impossible to run a new-ish diesel without. Like you guys I have been lucky so far with my current car as it approaches 5 years and 90k miles. I have family in the motor trade who are also convinced cheap fuel = false economy. a colleague who also sells cars has stopped dealing in older DPF fitted diesels because of customer hassle when (not if) the DPF plays up. However if you want to hear it from someone else I suggest you look at Honest John website and search DPF problems........ I love driving diesels but the use of a DPF is a crude inelegant solution to the emissions problem as are DMF’ s another potentially costly failure feature of most diesels. Now that petrol engines are increasingly DPF equipped I can see problems with those too in future. 

ScreenName5BF15314BC replied on 15/05/2018 22:53

Posted on 15/05/2018 22:53

There is much to read concerning dpf's if you 'Google' it. Basically; don't  use supermarket fuel, use premium fuel every other fill up, don't go below 1/4 full, use a cleaner minimum 3k miles, drive the engine over 3k rpm every 250 miles, don't let the car idle on your drive. Dpf lifespan is 75-90k and is a service part.

The emergency services vehicles never suffer Dpf problem as their vehicles are worked really hard.

 

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