Electronic handbrake

toddsontour replied on 25/10/2022 16:38

Posted on 25/10/2022 16:38

I’m looking to replace my aging xtrail  but am concerned that most cars nowadays are fitted with electronic parking brake,are these easy to use ie hill start with caravan on.just seems another gimmick that we could do without.Have been told if you have a flat battery car cannot be moved.would welcome comments from fellow towers.

Vulcan replied on 28/10/2022 22:39

Posted on 28/10/2022 21:57 by JVB66

Really?

Posted on 28/10/2022 22:39

Obviously a tall story or driver error, if the vehicle was in P the EPB and Parking Pawl would be applied and if it was in D either the footbrake would be applied or if moving the EPB would be released so the driver would be in control or not as the case may be.

watto64 replied on 29/10/2022 09:25

Posted on 29/10/2022 09:25

You wont find many cars without EBP these days and not just new ones, our 2017 Santa Fe had it and was faultless in manual or auto.

On our XC90 you have various parking brake options/combinations. 

1. Using the Sensus system the EPB can be auto applied everytime you stop in traffic aligned with the engine stop/start function - brakes release very sharply making it a bit jerky in slow traffic - Option not used

2. A button to activate the auto hold/EBP system - see 1. - Option not used

3. Another button to apply EPB on and off manually but will auto-release if pulling away. 

4. Using Sensus system the EPB can be set to apply when the engine is switched off at the ignition button. This option is selected and probably the only time the EBP is on

All options of EBP auto release on our car are not the smoothest so is turned  off manually  manourvering the caravan.

Strangely though hill holding and hill starts with or without caravan attached are very smooth!

The XC90 B5 engine stop start cannot be turned off but is seamless unlike the EBP release. 

 

JVB66 replied on 29/10/2022 09:55

Posted on 28/10/2022 22:39 by Vulcan

Obviously a tall story or driver error, if the vehicle was in P the EPB and Parking Pawl would be applied and if it was in D either the footbrake would be applied or if moving the EPB would be released so the driver would be in control or not as the case may be.

Posted on 29/10/2022 09:55

To find out what the failure was you will need to contact the driver or the breakdown service that attended the Range Rover

 I am just advising of what was conveyed to me over a drink with the site staff concerned   ,but some it seems try to make it a major issue

The actual conversation was the way the cost rose to repair the bollard since the latest contract with caravan site electrics had been implemented 

Tinwheeler replied on 29/10/2022 10:03

Posted on 29/10/2022 09:55 by JVB66

To find out what the failure was you will need to contact the driver or the breakdown service that attended the Range Rover

 I am just advising of what was conveyed to me over a drink with the site staff concerned   ,but some it seems try to make it a major issue

The actual conversation was the way the cost rose to repair the bollard since the latest contract with caravan site electrics had been implemented 

Posted on 29/10/2022 10:03

It's hearsay, JVB. You have no idea what caused the incident so are blaming the EPB without evidence.

EmilysDad replied on 29/10/2022 10:59

Posted on 29/10/2022 10:59

I can only assume that EPB are cheaper to fit as I can't see any practical advantage of them compared to a "normal" set up. I know that in the case of my Merc they removed the drum parking brake when the EPB was introduced & so the EPB now acts on the disc. And you only need to look at some PSA cars a ffew years back to know that drum parking brakes are better than discs.

JVB66 replied on 29/10/2022 11:13

Posted on 29/10/2022 10:59 by EmilysDad

I can only assume that EPB are cheaper to fit as I can't see any practical advantage of them compared to a "normal" set up. I know that in the case of my Merc they removed the drum parking brake when the EPB was introduced & so the EPB now acts on the disc. And you only need to look at some PSA cars a ffew years back to know that drum parking brakes are better than discs.

Posted on 29/10/2022 11:13

Some months ago a neighbour with a VW 4x4?,his vehicle. ran into another vehicle about 50yrds down the hill of our road

And more"hearsays' undecided the owner of the VW told the owner of the damaged vehicle who told mewink the epb failed to hold the disk brake on his car as the brakes were hot and had cooled down allowing the epb to not grip fully after application (VW garage answer)surprised

replied on 29/10/2022 11:34

Posted on 29/10/2022 10:59 by EmilysDad

I can only assume that EPB are cheaper to fit as I can't see any practical advantage of them compared to a "normal" set up. I know that in the case of my Merc they removed the drum parking brake when the EPB was introduced & so the EPB now acts on the disc. And you only need to look at some PSA cars a ffew years back to know that drum parking brakes are better than discs.

Posted on 29/10/2022 11:34

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