Breakaway Cable Attachment in Holland

GTP replied on 01/05/2018 17:57

Posted on 01/05/2018 17:57

I don't know why...but it appears the various Vehicle Inspection agencies throughout Europe have a delight in pulling me over to inspect my outfit. I mean its not as if we have old vehicles, or exceed the speed limits of the country. The tow car is 1yr old and the caravan is just 6 mnths old.

The latest such inspection was on Saturday around 3-0pm on the A15 just 5 miles short of the Rotterdam Europort ferry terminal (We were scheduled on the overnight ferry to Hull)...when out of nowhere appeared a police motorcycle, waived and pointed to his 'Follow Me' sign...which i duly did following him off the next junction, around a couple of roundabouts to a vehicle inspection station...full of Caravans and Motorhomes. 

First up was the request for driving licence, V5 for both car and caravan. No problem, even accepting the electronic version on the OH iPhone. (although one Police Officer wasn't convinced but let it pass) Note to self, take copies of V5's...Next was to move onto weighing pads, both car and caravan, checked against plates...No problem, Phew !!!...then asked to pull into next bay where the car and caravan where given a roadworthy test, you name it they looked at it. No problem , passed with flying colours..as being new vehicles, should have.

But then wait...hold the phone, one of the inspectors pointed to the breakaway cable....At this point I will refer you to my previous post and encounter with the UK equivalent inspectors when i was issued a prohibition notice for incorrect attachment..later squashed when the the club intervened...It was at that point that I also changed to the direct attachment ALKO specific cable. This is what I had in place when inspected..a direct attachment to a designated fixing point. 

Not good said the inspector....must be looped trough a karabiner...which he produced, fitted and charged me 4€...followed by a police officer issuing me with a ticket (to be sent) for incorrect attachment of breakaway cable...Some one on the ferry said the fine could be 130€.  The ticket has yet to arrive so I cannot post a photo but I attach a photo of the karabiner the inspector fitted....

Happy caravanning ...

Tigi replied on 02/05/2018 21:58

Posted on 02/05/2018 12:51 by Lutz

The towbar on my car has dedicated anchorage point for the breakaway cable, but the hole is too small to allow a carabiner to pass through. It can only be clipped directly.

Posted on 02/05/2018 21:58

Alko supply two types of breakaway cables one SKU: 1220984 which as per a previous post is the carabiner type clip for direct connection to a fixed point on the towball/bar. 

SKU: 368605 is a spring clip type for looping over the towball and back onto the cable itself. I have a 2018 van which was supplied with this type and was`nt suitable as the towball/bar has a fixed connection point.

See the Alko site for examples and NCC Documents for their take on connecting breakaway cables though the actual clip to be used is`nt that clear.

jennyc replied on 10/05/2018 06:25

Posted on 10/05/2018 06:25

We’ve had an in depth discussion on this subject on CT in the not so distant past. There’s even been a live Q&A session with a C&MC expert. Officials both in the UK and abroad seem to hold strong beliefs about the legality of various attachment methods - which may or may not align with actual legislation and/Alko’s pictorial advice. The biggest culprits of all are Alko themselves. Not answering specific questions, often not replying, passing queries on to colleagues who in turn don’t reply etc. It seems that any fixed attachment point should be within 10cm of the ball centre - many aren’t. A karabiner type cable should be used and attached to the fixed point, if one exists. For many vans, the karabiner cable is so long that it may hang low enough to wear through on the road. But Alko only make their cables in one length.

We’ve printed out Alko’s pictorial advice and carry it in our van, in case our usage is queried. It’s a ridiculous situation, not helped by Alko’s inability to recognise the problem and provide an option for a shorter cable. Towbar manufacturers too, appear to be ignorant of the need to standardise fixed attachment points in both a legal way and one which works with Alko cables. Officialdom is almost universally ignorant of the above anomalies, and the C&MC, who should be using their influence to remedy matters, aren’t.

Oneputt replied on 10/05/2018 07:50

Posted on 10/05/2018 07:50

Where are the staff champions when a question like this arises, correct me if I am wrong but I thought they had been introduced for just such occasions as this. 

I have e-mailed Ro to ask if the club can provide and update on the current situation. 

KeefySher replied on 10/05/2018 07:56

Posted on 10/05/2018 07:34 by cyberyacht

When it comes to lobbying on technical issues, the CAMC are as effective as a chocolate fireguard.

Posted on 10/05/2018 07:56

A chocolate coffee cartridge heating device in the 21st century, surely. Fireguards are from a bygone era tongue-out

Justus2 replied on 10/05/2018 08:05

Posted on 10/05/2018 08:05

Before we got the current motor-home, during our caravanning days, we had a Skoda Octavia estate fitted with a Westfalia removable tow bar like..

<<this>>

There is no dedicated breakaway fastener, there is no accessible metal either in the rear end of the car, its all completely shrouded in plastic. Looping around the ball was the only option available... Good job we never went to Holland undecided

Cornersteady replied on 10/05/2018 08:16

Posted on 10/05/2018 08:05 by Justus2

Before we got the current motor-home, during our caravanning days, we had a Skoda Octavia estate fitted with a Westfalia removable tow bar like..

<<this>>

There is no dedicated breakaway fastener, there is no accessible metal either in the rear end of the car, its all completely shrouded in plastic. Looping around the ball was the only option available... Good job we never went to Holland undecided

Posted on 10/05/2018 08:16

Much like my present tow bar, (and my neighbours)  On mine there is a metal bar with a hole in it coming down from the main spar but it's well hidden under the bumper and impossible to get to unless you lie on the ground. I'm not even sure it's meant for a breakaway cable 

Has it ever been known for a detachable tow bar to... well detach when towing? 

I wish the club would give some answers?

GTP replied on 10/05/2018 09:40

Posted on 10/05/2018 09:40

Latest Update:-  CaMC has now received all the relevant paperwork and has sent me an email saying they will be in touch...

A possible upside is, if I go ahead and appeal, I have to attend the hearing in person..in The Hague...now where did I put that ACSI book cool

Unfortunately i cannot speak or read Ductch, some of the words I can translate from a German influence but the the following link...which is the official guidance on towing a caravan in Holland is pretty self explanatory with the pictures...

https://www.anwb.nl/kamperen/caravan/rijden-met-de-caravan/koppeling/losbreekkabel

And yet another offering...

https://www.caravanguard.co.uk/news/video-caravan-breakaway-cables-15969/?dealercode=URLTRACK&campaignID=NTNET676&sourcebusID=GSITE677&activityID=3NGUISI1

bottom line is:  Does the dutch legislation apply to foreign reg vehicles, as mentioned in a document further back this thread.

 

GTP replied on 10/05/2018 09:54

Posted on 10/05/2018 09:54

For info and as promised..... a copy of the 'ticket' is below.. The fine is €107.00 plus 50% if not paid by due date...I can appeal and need not pay during this time...but if I then appeal that decision (if against me) I have to attend a sub district court in the Hague...

 

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