Are towing mirrors mandatory

Wolfie1 replied on 25/06/2021 22:24

Posted on 25/06/2021 22:24

As the topic asks? I have a jag xe and there is cameras on the end of the wing mirrors once you create a trailer profile and then select trailer mode with a trailer on these cameras show right down the side of the caravan better on the infotainment screen than with mirrors attached but with the mirrors fitted the arm of the mirrors block the camera, so do i have to have them by law, or will the cameras suffice?

EmilysDad replied on 26/06/2021 09:47

Posted on 26/06/2021 09:26 by Wolfie1

Thanks all, the cameras are on the wing mirrors and do what towing mirrors do but only better and yes i can see in the cameras the illustration above, the central rear view mirror is not what i mean, hope that makes more sense

Posted on 26/06/2021 09:47

I understand where the cameras are but it still leaves the question of whether you can see far enough behind you with them or whether you need extended mirrors.

Wolfie1 replied on 30/07/2021 21:40

Posted on 30/07/2021 21:40

So i got my other half to take a pic of the screen that displays the camera images, i was going round a very gradual bend that can be seen at the time

 

Vulcan replied on 30/07/2021 22:38

Posted on 30/07/2021 21:40 by Wolfie1

So i got my other half to take a pic of the screen that displays the camera images, i was going round a very gradual bend that can be seen at the time

 

Posted on 30/07/2021 22:38

You cannot see the rear corners of the van as per the illustration so you need towing mirrors.

BrianJames replied on 13/11/2021 23:31

Posted on 13/11/2021 23:31

Legal and sensible are two different things. 

Even if you can legally see everything with the cars basic fittings I would still suggest fitting towing extension mirrors for one really big reason. The police are more likely to stop a car towing a caravan if the car does not have the extension mirrors. And that creates an opening for anything else to be looked at too.

Plus you can then adjust your cars mirrors to see other things not covered normally and have an even safer rear view.

Navigateur replied on 14/11/2021 10:11

Posted on 14/11/2021 10:11

Let's consider a slightly bigger picture (no pun intended).  Would towing cameras replacing towing mirrors be adequate?  And if so would that be the case on a vehicle that did not have factory fitted cameras to begin with?

I hope the cameras producing the image illustrated above are just badly adjusted as they could not be used to show by how much the caravan was missing objects when passing through a narrow space.

obbernockle replied on 14/11/2021 12:02

Posted on 14/11/2021 12:02

A typical caravan (say Swift) is 2230 mm wide, and the Jaguar XE is 2075mm wide including mirrors. This makes rear vision, using integral camera lenses or the mirrors, legally impossible.

By the way, had it been a Range Rover at 2209mm wide across the mirrors, it would still be impossible. I don't know of any UK passenger cars wide enough.

 

cyberyacht replied on 15/11/2021 16:55

Posted on 15/11/2021 16:55

Unless you tow a micro caravan with a Hummer, then yes, plus they also act like cat's whiskers - if the mirror fir, so does the van. 

Getting on to cameras as replacements, they would equally need to be on stalks( perhaps adjustable to suit width of outfit). Downside would be that clouting one would be even more expensive than towing mirrors.

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