Implications of a Theft from a CASSOA Site

catherinef replied on 16/12/2017 13:16

Posted on 16/12/2017 13:16

What are the likely implications for a CASSOA rating where a storge site has had a caravan stolen?  Is it possible that their rating maybe affected?

Tinwheeler replied on 16/12/2017 16:26

Posted on 16/12/2017 16:26

Who can say without knowing either the circumstances or how CASSOA operate. That’s a question you need to put to CASSOA.

Milothedog replied on 17/12/2017 19:51

Posted on 17/12/2017 19:51

Don't know about other sites but where my van is stored is a gold site. Key pad entry  and exit, long single track road in and out with CCTV and out of normal hours a bollard that rises out the ground to block the entrance which can only be lowered by the owner by prior arrangement. 

dmiller555 replied on 18/12/2017 08:18

Posted on 17/12/2017 19:51 by Milothedog

Don't know about other sites but where my van is stored is a gold site. Key pad entry  and exit, long single track road in and out with CCTV and out of normal hours a bollard that rises out the ground to block the entrance which can only be lowered by the owner by prior arrangement. 

Posted on 18/12/2017 08:18

Keypad is not secure unless the number is changed very frequently, a coded fob system would be better. 

CaSSOA are the one to ask about the rating but I suspect that a loss occurring would first bring about a re-survey to understand how the thief defeated the system.

Milothedog replied on 19/12/2017 20:29

Posted on 18/12/2017 08:18 by dmiller555

Keypad is not secure unless the number is changed very frequently, a coded fob system would be better. 

CaSSOA are the one to ask about the rating but I suspect that a loss occurring would first bring about a re-survey to understand how the thief defeated the system.

Posted on 19/12/2017 20:29

"Keypad is not secure unless the number is changed very frequently, a coded fob system would be better."

Must be good enough to satisfy the criteria to be classed as a Gold site ? and gets me a discount on my insurance wink 

Natasha2 replied on 20/12/2017 09:01

Posted on 20/12/2017 09:01

We store on a gold rated site too and security at ours is rubbish in the daytime.

 Heavy gate but unlocked and quite often left open if someone is inside the compound at their caravan.  However there are radar beams and cameras which alert the house when someone drives in. 

It suits us as it's convenient and very reasonably priced and our caravan is a long way inside, we wouldn't like to be near the gate. 

DavidKlyne replied on 20/12/2017 15:15

Posted on 16/12/2017 13:16 by catherinef

What are the likely implications for a CASSOA rating where a storge site has had a caravan stolen?  Is it possible that their rating maybe affected?

Posted on 20/12/2017 15:15

It depends on how they arrive at a particular rating. Usually it's not that scientific. I expect every storage unit in the scheme will have to meet a minimum standard to achieve the lowest rating. The rating can be improved by adding more security features. If a unit was stolen from a top rated site it would depend on whether all the security features matched the requirements and were maintained. If they did I would imagine the rating would stay the same? 

David

dmiller555 replied on 20/12/2017 17:17

Posted on 19/12/2017 20:29 by Milothedog

"Keypad is not secure unless the number is changed very frequently, a coded fob system would be better."

Must be good enough to satisfy the criteria to be classed as a Gold site ? and gets me a discount on my insurance wink 

Posted on 20/12/2017 17:17

I thought the idea was security rather than saving a bit on your insurance. 

The key pad code is very easy to pass on hence my comment. 

Milothedog replied on 20/12/2017 18:56

Posted on 20/12/2017 17:17 by dmiller555

I thought the idea was security rather than saving a bit on your insurance. 

The key pad code is very easy to pass on hence my comment. 

Posted on 20/12/2017 18:56

My point is you are making a judgement of the security in place on one comment without actually having ever seen whats in place and the layout of the site and where and how caravans and motorhomes are stored........

catherinef replied on 20/12/2017 21:13

Posted on 20/12/2017 21:13

Thanks to everyone who has commented,  I have contacted CASSOA to find out their viewpoint but at present I've not received a reply.  The reason for the question is that we were quite shocked and unsettled at the weekend to learn that a local CASSOA facility had been broken into and 2 vans taken.

dmiller555 replied on 21/12/2017 19:31

Posted on 20/12/2017 18:56 by Milothedog

My point is you are making a judgement of the security in place on one comment without actually having ever seen whats in place and the layout of the site and where and how caravans and motorhomes are stored........

Posted on 21/12/2017 19:31

May be not but I would not store my van in a compound protected by a keypad they are not secure. In my opinion. 

 

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