Leisure Battery

Senator5 replied on 11/10/2021 18:51

Posted on 11/10/2021 18:51

I,m looking for some advice please on what size of leisure battery I should purchase for my motorhome.We plan to do quite a bit of going off grid but I,m not sure what ampage or where I should go to get one.We have a solar panel on the motorhome.

LLM replied on 11/10/2021 19:47

Posted on 11/10/2021 19:47

It would be helpful to know what MH you have.  In any event you can't do better than deal with: Tayna

SeasideBill replied on 11/10/2021 19:56

Posted on 11/10/2021 19:56

It’s a surprisingly big subject! However, Google will come to your rescue, there’s load of reference material on the web from the simple to the complex. Also CMC and Caravan & Camping Club sites have good technical notes on the subject. As well as obvious stuff like how much space do you have, a good starting point is to understand how much power you need and therefore the battery spec you require. For example, a 100AH battery will provide 1A for 100 hours, 2A for 50 hours etc, so a 12v appliance rated at 10A should give you 10 hours of usage assuming 100AH battery. Therefore, if you used it for 5 minutes a day it should last 120 days. On that basis you can get an idea of what’s needed for your requirements, but in reality it’s more complicated than that which is why some research is recommended if you’re serious about off-grid. What’s your solar panel output?

The Tayna site looks good.

LLM replied on 11/10/2021 21:03

Posted on 11/10/2021 19:56 by SeasideBill

It’s a surprisingly big subject! However, Google will come to your rescue, there’s load of reference material on the web from the simple to the complex. Also CMC and Caravan & Camping Club sites have good technical notes on the subject. As well as obvious stuff like how much space do you have, a good starting point is to understand how much power you need and therefore the battery spec you require. For example, a 100AH battery will provide 1A for 100 hours, 2A for 50 hours etc, so a 12v appliance rated at 10A should give you 10 hours of usage assuming 100AH battery. Therefore, if you used it for 5 minutes a day it should last 120 days. On that basis you can get an idea of what’s needed for your requirements, but in reality it’s more complicated than that which is why some research is recommended if you’re serious about off-grid. What’s your solar panel output?

The Tayna site looks good.

Posted on 11/10/2021 21:03

If only it was that simple SB. Unless you intend to entirely deplete the battery, which will very quickly wreck it, the best you can get from a standard battery is about 50% of capacity.  

LLM replied on 11/10/2021 21:07

Posted on 11/10/2021 21:07

Senator, I suggest you join Motorhome Fun it is a mine of info and all the Funsters are really helpful.

SeasideBill replied on 11/10/2021 21:45

Posted on 11/10/2021 21:03 by LLM

If only it was that simple SB. Unless you intend to entirely deplete the battery, which will very quickly wreck it, the best you can get from a standard battery is about 50% of capacity.  

Posted on 11/10/2021 21:45

Yes, as I said “but in reality it’s more complicated than that”.

In reality most people won’t deplete a battery as it will be subject to regular charging, solar, alternator or EHU - was trying to keep it simple.

cyberyacht replied on 12/10/2021 10:13

Posted on 12/10/2021 10:13

If you are planning serious off-grid, then Lithium is the way to go, supported by a decent solar array.

DaveCyn replied on 12/10/2021 13:17

Posted on 12/10/2021 13:17

While I have to agree that Lithium seems to be the way forward they are very expensive to purchase and from some accounts I've read they are not always compatible with the standard battery chargers.

Loads of us manage very well with a decent lead acid battery and solar panel set up. 

 

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GTrimmer replied on 12/10/2021 17:17

Posted on 12/10/2021 13:17 by DaveCyn

While I have to agree that Lithium seems to be the way forward they are very expensive to purchase and from some accounts I've read they are not always compatible with the standard battery chargers.

Loads of us manage very well with a decent lead acid battery and solar panel set up. 

 

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Posted on 12/10/2021 17:17

Agreed.  

https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/caravans/articles/practical-advice/lead-v-lithium-leisure-batteries-a-caravanners-guide

Beware of 'AGM' and 'Gell' batteries also. They both need special charging conditions as well.

young thomas replied on 12/10/2021 20:49

Posted on 12/10/2021 17:17 by GTrimmer

Agreed.  

https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/caravans/articles/practical-advice/lead-v-lithium-leisure-batteries-a-caravanners-guide

Beware of 'AGM' and 'Gell' batteries also. They both need special charging conditions as well.

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:49

Perhaps he's looking for 'a Motorhomes guide'...?undecided

gel, AGM and lithium are often OEM on top line MH and will usually have the charging profiles to match.

evaluating 'how much' battery capacity depends on ones usage rate, how long you're off grid, how quickly the solar array can replenish, and when solar is poor (winter) how long would batteries need to support the user before moving on and recharging etc, etc.

'normal' usage of (led) lights, water pump, charging iPhones etc is fairly easily supported by a 100w panel and a 100ah (max use 50ah) battery...

move towards running a hairdryer, Ebike batteries, microwave etc from a large inverter and the scale multiplies quickly...

Navigateur replied on 12/10/2021 21:55

Posted on 12/10/2021 21:55

I'm currently (no pun!) investigating why my inverter will not run my microwave from a nearly new 110Ah leisure battery.  I suspect the current drain is too high and am about to experiment using a similar sized battery from a Land Rover. 

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