Lazy linking to a Solar panel

peterpinkhouse replied on 05/11/2018 10:24

Posted on 05/11/2018 10:24

I am thinking of getting one for our (old) Eriba Pan whilst it's sitting in a shed, so that its leisure battery is on relatively constant charge - but want to avoid fiddle & cost of meddling with the electrics.

So I wondered whether I could simply wire the panel to the appropriate pins of a 13-pin socket and (if the sun shines) just plug it in to the caravan's 13-pin plug - and do nothing more than unplug it when driving away.

Please, please tell me it's a doddle.

replied on 05/11/2018 10:35

Posted on 05/11/2018 10:35

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ocsid replied on 05/11/2018 13:34

Posted on 05/11/2018 13:34

If considering using any cigarette type socket you first need to ascertain if with the van "asleep" it is actually still connected to the van's battery; with most modern vans it will not be IMO.

Providing a dedicated one directly connected [via a fuse] to the battery is an easy DIY task.

I am not confident that with more modern vans the 13 pin plug also remains directly connected to the battery where very low current feeds are involved? I used to use my white seven pin DIN to provide power for the van's flashers back via the black plug. When I changed the van in 2008 that add on device would no longer function, hence thinking the feed is no longer there.

ocsid replied on 05/11/2018 14:07

Posted on 05/11/2018 14:07

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I had found a link showing that the habitation relay inhibits using the 13 pin connector; but then realised it was an Australian diagram which might not be as here, though I suspect it is. 

peedee replied on 05/11/2018 15:55

Posted on 05/11/2018 15:55

Wht not just fit crocodile clips to the ends of the leads of the solar panel and just connect it direct to the battery? While a small panel is unlikely to over charge the battery it would be saver to fit a controller. Some portable panels come with controllers.

peedee

lornalou1 replied on 05/11/2018 16:22

Posted on 05/11/2018 16:22

have you power to the shed and if so use like a site EHU or even run an extension cable to the shed.

peterpinkhouse replied on 08/11/2018 13:31

Posted on 08/11/2018 13:31

Perhaps I should have mentioned that this is not a motorhome but a caravan. So gigarette lighters or other 12v sockets are not relevant.

But it rather looks as if I'm still in nowhere land.

P.S. Lornalou - the point is that the shed is on a farm and there is not mains. Hence the 'adventurous' thinking - but ta.

 

lornalou1 replied on 08/11/2018 20:45

Posted on 08/11/2018 20:45

Aha, with you saying a shed I and others thought you were at home, I would have called it a barn, so could you fit a 60/80 solar on the roof and run cable down to a controller on the wall and take leads from controller to battery compartment and crock clip on to charge when stored, or remove battery and take home to charge.

jennyc replied on 08/11/2018 23:29

Posted on 08/11/2018 23:29

Well Peterpink, how about considering just a tiny fiddle with your van electrics. We have connected a car style cigarette lighter socket, via a fuse, to the main battery feed. For neatness the connection has been made behind the battery box, but you could piggy back into the leads as they come off the battery.

We plug our portable, regulated  solar panel into the above socket when  parked without EHU. Could you leave a panel outside the barn/ shed, connecting through a small hole. In the building. Our battery stays topped up with the 20W panel which was standard on the van. It’s too small for staying off EHU, hence the socket above.

hitchglitch replied on 11/11/2018 14:57

Posted on 11/11/2018 14:57

I thought that Pin 10 (switched live) and pin 9 (earth for pin 10) were used for fridge and battery charging when the car engine is running with the relay being in the car to detect ignition status. In which case you should be able to use pins 10/9 on the caravan 13 pin socket to charge the battery from the solar panel (making sure that the fridge is off).

As nobody else has mentioned this I may be wrong of course.

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