Calor lite & Calor in general

Herb Atious replied on 06/06/2017 10:39

Posted on 06/06/2017 10:39

Sorry to bring up a subject that has no doubt been discussed before (I have read the previous posts but am still unsure of the situation)

I am returning to caravanning after 20 years so have missed much of the discussion on various subjects, one being Calor lite 

I have never previously used Calor but the van I have purchased has a single Calor 6kg bottle

I would like to get a 2nd bottle as a spare and have been looking around for same

One has come up but its a Calor lite 6kg

I gather the standard regulator fits both ?

If I get the Calor lite, when empty are there any problems in getting an exchange for a standard if lite is being discontinued (I understand it will still be supplied but you wonder how many outlets will still stock it)

Calor online show its £21 for a refill with swap old bottle but a new bottle is £61 with no empty to swap

So if I can get a full bottle cheaper it makes sense to but am I correct

Any help or advice appreciated

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

jennyc replied on 13/06/2017 05:58

Posted on 06/06/2017 15:57 by Herb Atious

Many thanks for that helpful information 

I shall have to arm myself with a spanner or two & an adjustable just in case

Its a problem not having the van at hand to check these things out

Not heard of the change over gadget, I will look into that

Much appreciated

 

Posted on 13/06/2017 05:58

Further to Navagateur's helpful advice;
Stainless steel pigtails  cost a lot more than rubber i.e. £25 v £8
Rubber hoses have a life expectancy of about 5 years from manufacture (not first use) while stainless can be used for over 20 years.
Rubber hoses release oil which causes deterioration of rubber parts of regulators, changeover controls etc. Necessitating replacement.
For very many years now, caravans have been fitted with bulkhead mounted regulators, which are a lot more expensive than bottle fitted ones. £45 v £8.
Automatic changeover valves allow two bottles to be left connected which adds convenience on a wet day when the in-use bottle runs out of gas.
Calor Lite bottles and their refills are more expensive than regular Calor bottles.
SO, A low budget setup with a conventional bottle, screw on regulator and a rubber hose will cost;
Full bottle £57
Regulator £8
Rubber pigtail £8
Total £75
OR A luxury setup with two Calor Lite bottles, two stainless steel pigtails with hand wheels, an automatic changeover and bulkhead regulator will cost;
Two new, full Calor Lite bottles £142
Two 500mm POL stainless steel pigtails with hand wheels £50
An automatic changeover valve £45
A bulkhead mounted regulator £45
Total £282
But nice to own and with lower in life costs caused by deterioration, than a basic system.
All prices given are mid range, possibly on line.

Herb Atious replied on 13/06/2017 09:22

Posted on 13/06/2017 05:58 by jennyc

Further to Navagateur's helpful advice;
Stainless steel pigtails  cost a lot more than rubber i.e. £25 v £8
Rubber hoses have a life expectancy of about 5 years from manufacture (not first use) while stainless can be used for over 20 years.
Rubber hoses release oil which causes deterioration of rubber parts of regulators, changeover controls etc. Necessitating replacement.
For very many years now, caravans have been fitted with bulkhead mounted regulators, which are a lot more expensive than bottle fitted ones. £45 v £8.
Automatic changeover valves allow two bottles to be left connected which adds convenience on a wet day when the in-use bottle runs out of gas.
Calor Lite bottles and their refills are more expensive than regular Calor bottles.
SO, A low budget setup with a conventional bottle, screw on regulator and a rubber hose will cost;
Full bottle £57
Regulator £8
Rubber pigtail £8
Total £75
OR A luxury setup with two Calor Lite bottles, two stainless steel pigtails with hand wheels, an automatic changeover and bulkhead regulator will cost;
Two new, full Calor Lite bottles £142
Two 500mm POL stainless steel pigtails with hand wheels £50
An automatic changeover valve £45
A bulkhead mounted regulator £45
Total £282
But nice to own and with lower in life costs caused by deterioration, than a basic system.
All prices given are mid range, possibly on line.

Posted on 13/06/2017 09:22

Thanks for the extra input

I looked at the changeover valves and quickly discounted the thought, the cheapest version was £50

I will slum it and change bottles myself ;-)

Nice to have but really ? is it necessary, I don't think so 

Appreciate the information though

I would wager the vast majority of caravans have the same rubber hoses they were originally supplied with

 

 

Trini replied on 13/06/2017 12:23

Posted on 13/06/2017 12:23

Hi Steve.

 

Our discussions with Elddis continue now added to the 'list' is the front roof light leaking giving a reading of 65% around it on the ceiling panels.

Its been temp resealed but Elddis keep rejecting the claim due to wrong forms being completed by the repairer.

Pathetic and useless customer service but expected from the infamous shed builder

malkie replied on 13/06/2017 17:52

Posted on 13/06/2017 17:52

Herb Acious:

if the 'van is serviced by an approved service workshop, they check the hoses and "suggest" replacement when the date marked on them is near or exceeded.

Herb Atious replied on 13/06/2017 21:14

Posted on 13/06/2017 17:52 by malkie

Herb Acious:

if the 'van is serviced by an approved service workshop, they check the hoses and "suggest" replacement when the date marked on them is near or exceeded.

Posted on 13/06/2017 21:14

Aye, I suspect that is a big if, how many use or can afford an approved service workshop I wonder

I think most either don't bother at all or do what service work they can themselves 

 

Herb Atious replied on 13/06/2017 21:14

Posted on 13/06/2017 17:52 by malkie

Herb Acious:

if the 'van is serviced by an approved service workshop, they check the hoses and "suggest" replacement when the date marked on them is near or exceeded.

Posted on 13/06/2017 21:14

Aye, I suspect that is a big if, how many use or can afford an approved service workshop I wonder

I think most either don't bother at all or do what service work they can themselves 

 

JVB66 replied on 13/06/2017 21:18

Posted on 13/06/2017 21:14 by Herb Atious

Aye, I suspect that is a big if, how many use or can afford an approved service workshop I wonder

I think most either don't bother at all or do what service work they can themselves 

 

Posted on 13/06/2017 21:18

A mobile service engineer should also pick up any thing that requires replaceing because of age

Steve Scott replied on 13/06/2017 23:07

Posted on 13/06/2017 23:07

Hi Trini sorry to hear how your plight is getting drawn out. We decided to bite the bullet and change for a new Swift Exclusive,some would say out of the frying pan into the fire but after a five week tour of Scotland and no problems life is good.(hope i haven't put a curse on it ). I hope you get yours sorted out soon.

Steve

Pippah45 replied on 14/06/2017 08:18

Posted on 14/06/2017 08:18

Even approved workshops make mistakes with gas stuff so don't ASSume your van is safe just because you have used one.  I had a very near miss with a hose not tightened to the caravan end luckily I have an excellent sense of smell!  Then they had several new hoses with faulty brass fittings!  I now go Independant Mobile Servicing!  

The washer was from a brand new hose over tightened by approved workshop.

ArthurandJean replied on 19/06/2017 15:25

Posted on 09/06/2017 20:19 by SILVERFLAG

Regarding Calor lite: I tried to get a refill over the last 2 days. On a return visit to my local dealer I managed to get a 6Kg full standard propane after they had a new delivery. Only 7 of these were delivered, not many for a main dealer. They told me that Calor had informed them about 3 weeks ago that the 6Kg lite was being withdrawn.

Similar tale from another large dealer in my area. Looks like we have to put up with weight savings elsewhere!

Posted on 19/06/2017 15:25

Just tried to get a "lite" refill at a club site and was told no longer available. Tried the local Ayr Calor outlet and they confirmed they are being withdrawn and no more Calorlite cylinders will be available. Got one at my local supplier 5 weeks ago before we left home, no mention then of discontinuation. Back to the heavies I suppose.

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