UK Speed Limits for MHs

Kontikiboy replied on 04/04/2018 16:14

Posted on 04/04/2018 16:14

I always thought that the speed limit for heavier vans was based on those weighing over 3.5 tonnes, however, on closer inspection I see that it is 3.05 tonnes, which is 3050 kgs.    The UK Gov document at https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits uses 3.05t in the first part of the document but when later referring to goods vehicles it uses 3.5t.     Have I got it wrong or is there a typo in a UK Gov document?

BillC

 

Tinwheeler replied on 04/04/2018 16:24

Posted on 04/04/2018 16:24

It is 3050kg. 

3500kg refers to driver entitlement and 3050 to rules of the road.

Speed limiter - who knows but I guess HMG will have it right.

DavidKlyne replied on 04/04/2018 16:39

Posted on 04/04/2018 16:39

The 3050kgs is unladen weight so there will be similar motorhomes that that might fall either side of that figure but still come under the 3500kgs driver rules. So it seems the speed limit is governed by the unladen weight of the vehicle as far as motorhomes are concerned. The interesting question might be is unladen weight the design weight or the actual weight?

David

Thornsett replied on 05/04/2018 08:53

Posted on 05/04/2018 08:53

According to the law, the unladen weight of any vehicle is the weight of the vehicle when it’s not carrying any passengers, goods or other items. It includes the body and all parts normally used with the vehicle or trailer when it’s used on a road. It doesn’t include the weight of:

  • fuel
  • batteries in an electric vehicle - unless it’s a mobility scooter or powered wheelchair

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-weights-explained

For speed limits, visit

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

And yes, CY it does slurp the juice going an average 60mph, almost 5mpg more than averaging 50mph based on my unscientific calculations.

young thomas replied on 05/04/2018 09:11

Posted on 05/04/2018 09:11

AFAIK, 3050kg is the nearest metric equivalent to the old 3 ton limit...

irrespective of the actual weight limits, establishing the 'unladen weight' is the tricky bit...

definition from uk Gov....

"Unladen weight
The unladen weight of any vehicle is the weight of the vehicle when it’s not carrying any passengers, goods or other items.

It includes the body and all parts normally used with the vehicle or trailer when it’s used on a road.

It doesn’t include the weight of:

fuel
batteries in an electric vehicle - unless it’s a mobility scooter or powered wheelchair"

its obviously an older definition aimed at commercial vehicles, how one would apply this to a MH I wouldn't know....although my German spec sheet does list an ex factory 'unladen weight' but this is for a base model devoid of any factory fitted packs and extras and fluids....

WHOOPS....sorry, snap A......obviously 'researching' at the same time....smile

Tinwheeler replied on 05/04/2018 16:16

Posted on 05/04/2018 07:54 by cyberyacht

Do we really want to be batting along faster than 60mph anyway? It doesn't half slurp up the juice.

Posted on 05/04/2018 16:16

We regularly cruise at 70mph when legal to do so. Sometimes sacrificing a bit of economy, and it’s not much, pays off in terms of eating up motorway miles and not getting tangled up with the heavies.

Anyway, given the price of MHs, a few less mpg is a spot in the ocean.

Cornersteady replied on 05/04/2018 20:23

Posted on 05/04/2018 20:23

just really out of interest what are the speed limits in Europe for MHs? and do they differ (like here) to caravans?

Kontikiboy replied on 16/05/2018 10:55

Posted on 16/05/2018 10:55

Yes, Cornersteady, they do.    You can do a lookup on The Club site for Driving Abroad or download the EU App from AppStore, Google or Windows, search on "Going Abroad".    Its a useful app if you do drive on the other side of the channel.

BillC

 

Cornersteady replied on 16/05/2018 16:42

Posted on 16/05/2018 10:55 by Kontikiboy

Yes, Cornersteady, they do.    You can do a lookup on The Club site for Driving Abroad or download the EU App from AppStore, Google or Windows, search on "Going Abroad".    Its a useful app if you do drive on the other side of the channel.

BillC

 

Posted on 16/05/2018 16:42

Thanks for the replysmile

young thomas replied on 16/05/2018 18:07

Posted on 16/05/2018 18:07

Corners, from the Club website as noted by Bill...


France
Vehicle                               Motorways            Other roads
Car + caravan under 3.5t   81mph, 130km/h  56-68mph, 90-110km/h
Car + caravan over 3.5t     56mph, 90km/h    50-56mph, 80-96km/h
Motorhome under 3.5t       81mph, 130km/h  56-68mph, 90-110km/h
Motorhome over 3.5t          68mph, 110km/h  50-62mph, 80-100km/h

Quite a large difference in 'heavy' caravanning speeds compared to smaller caravan combos....

i guess 130kph (81mph) is markedly different/higher than our motprway towing speed limits....is that 60mph in the UK?

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