Towing a small car

lonewheeler replied on 21/06/2018 09:32

Posted on 21/06/2018 09:32

Hi. I am considering buying a small tow car such as an Aygo or Up. I have a 2017 EU 6 2.3 litre 130 HP Ducato. It is running at 3500 kg and has a towing capacity of 1250 kg. I am considering using an A Frame conversion on a towed vehicle weighing approximately 1000 kg.

My Motorhome is a Autotrail Tribute T-615 coach build.

Can any members towing with a similar specification advise me on their experience of the suitability of such an arrangement

Will the performance of the motorhome and fuel consumption be greatly affected.

Randomcamper replied on 21/06/2018 10:24

Posted on 21/06/2018 10:24

L,

We have the same van as you.

We used to tow a motorbike as a secondary vehicle, but the aquisition of a puppy means we have now bought a Peugeot 108 (same thing as an Aygo) to tow behind the van on some trips ( we would be "solo" doing the Outer Hebrides, NC500, "over there" etc....).

After a lot of consideration of the pro's & con's of an A frame versus trailer, I bought a suitable trailer and we have had a test tow down to the local business park to practice loading & unloading etc. All went smoothly, and the van coped absolutely fine with the extra weight behind it, although obviously there will be a price to pay with performance & fuel economy, but we are off to Scotland with it all next week, the first proper outing with a "toad". I'm looking forward to it.......!

 

lonewheeler replied on 21/06/2018 10:37

Posted on 21/06/2018 10:37

Thank you for your response Tintent115. An update on your findings following your trip would be welcome. Have you been able to keep the weight within 1250kg or have you a higher capacity for towing on your van? Enjoy your outing.

Randomcamper replied on 21/06/2018 10:55

Posted on 21/06/2018 10:55

L,    no my towing limit is 1250 the same as yours.   The Aygo/108/C1 all weigh 840kg, (well the 1.0 litre versions), and my trailer is 350kg, so all up that's 1190kg, just comfortably within the limit.

Autotrail don't publish anywhere the maximum nose weight permissible for a trailer, so I ended up ringing their technical department. It took a few attempts before I found someone who understood the question, but eventually I was told 100kg. I've set my trailer up with car on & measured the noseweight at about 60kg, which I'm happy with. If you use an A frame obviously noseweight won't be an issue.

As said, on a short tow all seems fine, but I will let you know if it's all still in one peice after our 600 mile roundtrip....!

H B Watson replied on 21/06/2018 12:27

Posted on 21/06/2018 12:27

I also tow an Aygo on a trailer and I find the consumption increases by about 3 - 5mpg, it's kept fairly constant over three motor-homes now. You will certainly know you've got an extra ton behind you, both accelerating and braking, but I've never found it a too bad, no-where as bad as hanging a caravan on the back of a car anyway.

Apperley replied on 21/06/2018 13:00

Posted on 21/06/2018 13:00

I tow an Aygo on an A frame behind my 2 litre 160 bhp Peugeot. No problems, lose 3 - 5 mpg when towing. Not much difference in acceleration, braking is fine as Aygo brakes electronically controlled when on the back. Would recommend it.

peedee replied on 21/06/2018 14:24

Posted on 21/06/2018 14:24

My outfit is very different so my experience will be different (180hp towing a Suzuki Celerio weighing 850Kgms) One common thing you may like to know is an A-Frame puts about 10Kgms load on the tow ball..

peedee

peedee replied on 30/06/2018 08:12

Posted on 29/06/2018 22:09 by QFour

You might as well by a Caravan and tow it with a car  .. 

Posted on 30/06/2018 08:12

No thanks, you obviously have no comprehension of the advantages.

peedee

BrianJosie replied on 30/06/2018 08:57

Posted on 30/06/2018 08:57

We tow an Aygo behind our Arto with a road master a-frame .It is an electronic braking system so that when you are braking in the Motorhome the 4 wheels are braking on the car.Red light comes on the dashboard to tell you all is working ok .The a-frame only weighs 9kg,great system.

Brian & Jo

Paul1951 replied on 16/07/2018 20:12

Posted on 16/07/2018 20:12

See member photo Swift Bollero and C1 in Northern Spain 2017.

I have had this system 5 years now and towed approx 4000 miles a year touring abroad, so a total of approx 20000 miles and have just returned from an 8 week trip to Croatia. We find this setup is the best option for our circumstances. Our system uses electric breaking and has a minimal effect on performance and economy. Only negative it is difficult to reverse, but in 5 years I have had to de-couple on 3 occasions to turn around, this takes about 2-3 minutes.

My suggestion would be ignore all the negative comments and enjoy.

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