The right 2 berth motorhome

Barry of Modbury replied on 02/10/2018 12:14

Posted on 02/10/2018 12:14

We are looking to swop our Swift Conqueror caravan for a new  2 berth motorhome. We want to travel the UK staying at National parks and e-biking or walking for 1-2 weeks at a time . We are looking at Majestic 120’s, Swifts  and Bailey 680’s .  We want an end lounge and a van of about 6m in length.

Has anyone any advice based on good experiences  or mistakes?

Thanks a lot

Barry Keel

Tinwheeler replied on 02/10/2018 13:11

Posted on 02/10/2018 13:11

Assuming your user name indicates your location, Barry, I suggest taking a look at the stock at Lee Mill although you've probably already done that. I’m not saying I recommend them as a company to deal with but, there again, I wouldn’t recommend any dealer.

We bought a Warwick Duo PVC 6m with end lounge and found it to be far easier to get around with than our previous coachbuilt model. It depends whether you intend using sites or getting off the beaten track and/or wild camping. We've been able to take the PVC to places we wouldn’t have dreamed of taking the fibreglass sided coachbuilt. You know what the lanes are like!

Other than that, you pays your money and makes your choice.

 

Tinwheeler replied on 02/10/2018 13:47

Posted on 02/10/2018 13:47

Barry, can I suggest you remove your location from your user name and don’t reveal your surname in future?

You make yourself very traceable and if you one day post your touring plans, it will let people know when your house is potentially empty.

fatbelly replied on 02/10/2018 14:31

Posted on 02/10/2018 12:14 by Barry of Modbury

We are looking to swop our Swift Conqueror caravan for a new  2 berth motorhome. We want to travel the UK staying at National parks and e-biking or walking for 1-2 weeks at a time . We are looking at Majestic 120’s, Swifts  and Bailey 680’s .  We want an end lounge and a van of about 6m in length.

Has anyone any advice based on good experiences  or mistakes?

Thanks a lot

Barry Keel

Posted on 02/10/2018 14:31

We've got a Bailey 75-2 which has an end bedroom and is still in warranty from Bailey for sale.

JVB66 replied on 02/10/2018 15:40

Posted on 02/10/2018 15:40

I am not sure what you mean by saying you want to stay in National parks for one or two weeks not sure about what sites you are wanting to use ?

A two birth panel van conversion will give much more flexibility if you want to tour,as they are almost go anywhere campers

Thornsett replied on 02/10/2018 16:07

Posted on 02/10/2018 16:07

I guess you have been looking at something like this:

https://www.nickwhalemotorhomes.co.uk/elddis-majestic-120-nzj

Note how long the rear overhang will be if you add two bikes. Then think about the payload your van has overall and for each axle. I'm not saying it won't be OK but just like a caravanner, you have to abide by the laws of physics and the DVSA. 

Most motorhomers carry bikes in garages. This means the bikes are safer and also closer to the real axle. The downside is that I don't know of any motorhome that has a decent enough garage for bikes and a rear lounge. If you want to carry bikes in a motorhome, a garage layout makes sense.

A 6m Panel Van Conversion such as mentioned by Tinwheeler will have a short overhang, a bike rack can be fitted, and you can have a rear lounge - with limited view if the bikes are on board! 

Not many motorhome layouts include a rear end lounge. 

Tinwheeler replied on 02/10/2018 16:15

Posted on 02/10/2018 16:15

Good points, Apenshaw.

Our PVC has a huge payload of something around 650kg. We have a bike rack fitted and, yes, carrying anything on it does obscure the view through the rear window. No gain without pain.

Also, with a PVC, the weight that can be carried on the rack is governed by the permitted stress on the door hinges rather than the rack's higher limit.

DavidKlyne replied on 02/10/2018 21:14

Posted on 02/10/2018 21:14

Barry

If you are free to do so I would suggest trying to get to the NEC where you can see all the models you are interested in one place and its easy to go back and forth when comparing the different elements. We have a Bailey Approach 740 which is bigger than what you want but perhaps worth pointing out that the Bailey Autograph range are amongst the widest motorhomes on the markets which may make a difference to your touring? We have been very pleased  with ours. 

David

rayjsj replied on 02/10/2018 22:50

Posted on 02/10/2018 16:07 by Thornsett

I guess you have been looking at something like this:

https://www.nickwhalemotorhomes.co.uk/elddis-majestic-120-nzj

Note how long the rear overhang will be if you add two bikes. Then think about the payload your van has overall and for each axle. I'm not saying it won't be OK but just like a caravanner, you have to abide by the laws of physics and the DVSA. 

Most motorhomers carry bikes in garages. This means the bikes are safer and also closer to the real axle. The downside is that I don't know of any motorhome that has a decent enough garage for bikes and a rear lounge. If you want to carry bikes in a motorhome, a garage layout makes sense.

A 6m Panel Van Conversion such as mentioned by Tinwheeler will have a short overhang, a bike rack can be fitted, and you can have a rear lounge - with limited view if the bikes are on board! 

Not many motorhome layouts include a rear end lounge. 

Posted on 02/10/2018 22:50

Dont agree about Most motorhomes not having a rear lounge, rear lounge models are  just about the Most popular layout in the UK. And  all UK manufactured brands include at least one rear lounge layout. Maybye not popular amongst European motorhomes.

 

Owned a coachbuilt with a rear garage, an Autotrail Savannah, most of the time it was just wasted space that would be better as living space, especially in a 6 metre van ,but agree that bikes are probably safer in one than on a rack.

cyberyacht replied on 03/10/2018 07:25

Posted on 03/10/2018 07:25

I've got a Marquis Majestic 125, which is the fixed bed/garage layout. I'm assuming that the axle weight of the 120 rear lounge model will be similar. A couple of bikes, unless they are exceptionally heavy, shouldn't present any overloading of the axle limit. I put mine on a weigh bridge and from memory, the rear axle was around 1250Kg. so plenty of capacity on the 2000Kg limit.

As for PVCs being better for narrow lanes, the Majestic is a slimline model being only 2.14m wide.

young thomas replied on 03/10/2018 08:37

Posted on 02/10/2018 15:40 by JVB66

I am not sure what you mean by saying you want to stay in National parks for one or two weeks not sure about what sites you are wanting to use ?

A two birth panel van conversion will give much more flexibility if you want to tour,as they are almost go anywhere campers

Posted on 03/10/2018 08:37

A two birth panel van conversion.....

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