Seatbelts in older motorhomes

NigelGwenSwiftSuntor replied on 11/01/2023 16:26

Posted on 11/01/2023 16:26

new to the motorhome world after purchasing a 2006 Swift Suntor (aka 590rl) Fiat Ducato. The use of seatbelts other than  driver and passenger seats never crossed my mind but online research has left me confused. As far as I can establish it wasn't compulsory to have seatbelts in the rear area until after 2006 so if you have a vehicle prior to that (which is me) there's no legal enforcement of  seatbelt wearing for passengers in the living area, then I have also read if you are stopped by police and you have passengers in the rear that aren't adequately restrained you can be prosecuted? I have also seen comments that passengers should not be sitting on side seats they should be facing forwards while travelling but no steer as to whether they also need to be restrained?. Wondering if anyone can clarify re possible police prosecution/warnings. It seems ridiculous that I have bought a 4 berth motorhome but it seems legally only 2 people can use it unless already parked up with engine switched off

Next obvious follow up question - anyone had experience good or bad of fitting legally compliant seatbelts in a motorhome? 

 

 

LLM replied on 17/01/2023 16:13

Posted on 17/01/2023 16:13

Far less wooly than any of the comments previously posted in answer to his query, in fact simply and factual.

Tinwheeler replied on 17/01/2023 16:19

Posted on 17/01/2023 16:19

In that case, you’ll be able to resolve the OP's confusion. 👍🏻

NigelGwenSwiftSuntor replied on 20/02/2023 12:14

Posted on 20/02/2023 12:14

Thanks for the replies everyone - I thought I just wasn't getting something, but from the responses there seems to be the usual case of government legislation being vague in favour of letting the public be absolutely clear in the face of possible prosecution

Of course I can see the point of why you would want to put a passenger at risk by not having them restrained and maybe that's where the story ends for a lot of motor homers, I suspect that statement is easier made if you own a van newer than 2006 when the legislation changed. 

I had seen the 'carriage of passengers in campervans' gov.uk page prior to coming here and it was what brought me to ask my original question. 

Quoting from the page:

Although it is not specifically illegal to travel in the accommodation area of a campervan, you should bear in mind that this area would not have been specifically designed for use when travelling and Regulation 100 of the Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 (SI 1986 No. 1078) may apply. This requires:

  • the number of passengers carried, and the manner in which any passengers are carried in a vehicle to be at all times such that no danger is caused, or is likely to be caused

Further to this, Section 40a of The Road Traffic Act 1988 (as amended by Section 8 of the Road Traffic Act 1991) Part II, Using a Vehicle in a Dangerous Condition, states that:

A person is guilty of an offence if he uses a motor vehicle or trailer on a road when:

  • the number of passengers carried by it, or the manner in which they are carried

is such that the use of the motor vehicle or trailer involves a danger of injury to any person.

Our advice is that passengers are safest in a forward or rearward facing seat equipped with a three-point seat belt

Whilst there is no specific legal limit to the number of passengers carried, the manufacturer will probably specify the maximum number that the vehicle is designed for

ABM replied on 20/02/2023 22:01

Posted on 20/02/2023 22:01

Oh Dear, Brian hates walking thro Minefields !!

I have to admit my 12 Reg Ducato is an AutoCruise Jazz  two berth , four seater campervan with Four Forward facing  Seat belts { Absolutely wonderful for providing a secure anchorage on site for watching Saturdays Footy wink  }

ABM replied on 21/02/2023 22:54

Posted on 21/02/2023 22:54

OOOPS, Brian forgot to say that he uses the seats as a secure anchorage for the Tele-box when I'm watching footy or it will fall over every time t'Alex score  embarassed

near Malvern Hills Club Campsite Member photo by Andrew Cole

Book a late escape

There's still availability at many popular UK Club campsites - find your perfect pitch today for a last minute trip!

Book now
Woman sitting in camping chair by Wastwater in the Lake District with her two dogs and picnic blanket

Follow us on Facebook

Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for latest news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers.

Photo of Wast Water, Lake District by Sue Peace
Visit Facebook