Rear of motorhome cold while traveling.

Doug,

As far as I can see you should be able to.......

My Autoquest was Dec 2012 and had the Truma Secumotion (or Road Safe - they've used several names for them) regulator that allows you to safely have the gas on in motion, assuming your supplied from cylinders, because as BB says above, part of the system is a hose with a rupture protection valve in it as well.

At the time Elddis were fitting Truma regulators and Whale underfloor heaters so the Truma/Whale combo sounds as though it is compatible. The link here for the 2012 handbook shows the Truma/Whale partnership.

http://www.elddis.co.uk/documents/Handbooks/2012/autoquest-handbook.pdf

I think in this months MMM magazine Rhino Installs were offering to supply & fit a Secumotion regulator for about £200 but I'm sure almost any Approved Workshop could do it, you may need to get some quotes. I'm sure they will tell you whether barrelling down the motorway with the gas flame alight would blow it out, but I assume not or Elddis wouldn't have bothered fitting the system in the first place.....

a little more from OAL on the heat exchanger thinking ....a 10 uear old thread but a lot of still relevant thoughts..

Hi MT, you are a clever dick!     I picked my Swift MH up today after its 2nd hab' service and the damp test was 9.6%, one of the best scores they have ever had at my dealership.   Do you know your score?

BillC

In 1976 |(forty-two years ago) (she says, hardly believing it) we hired a motorhome from somewhere in Essex and set off on a four week trip (which turned into nearly six weeks) to Prague setting off in early September.  There were two couples, and one three year old. 

The motorhome had some sort  (obviously advanced) of heating. (I have no idea how it worked, but it was warm)..... which heated the back so much that we had to open some windows, even on the way home in October.  Can here really have been so little progress since then that passengers in a (possibly) £50,000 plus motorhome have to be cold whilst travelling?

Thanks again all. I like the idea of the secumotion. My Autoquest is due it’s first habitation service in May so il enquiry if fitting is possible and the cost.

Until then it’s extra clothing for my rear passengers and I’ll also have a look at the portable 12v ceramic heater as a stop gap. 👍

This is what’s currently fitted to my Autoquest.

Doug, this looks like a std generic Whale regulator along with a std black hose.....cant see any green button as this would be out of shot at the bottle end...

i think it would be very easy to change the regulator and hose to the one described by TT earlier....

i cant see any compatibility issue, but worth a check re the Whale heater.

i assume ypu have some heating vents in the location of the rear passengers....ie the double dinette?...

good luck...

Stand alone Webesco underfloor heater would fit the bill, and work without using up gas cylinders !   Travelling with gas heating on does use up a lot of gas, even if you use auto gas.  

The problem with Autogas is that you can get left with butane residue in winter that will not evaporate in colder weather. 

Not to useful if you are a winter mhomer !  

There are kits which use the heater coolant  to warm the Motorhome on the move.  This ok if you are continually on long runs. The major problems nowadays is that the vehicle particulate filters can be very fussy if the engine does not get hot enough To to allow regeneration.  The extra coolant can slow down the warming up process of the engine.

my Fiat takes a good 10 / 15 miles to get to a sensible engine temperature ie oil temp of about 90 / 95 deg C.

The heater is warm by 5 miles, but all you are doing is robbing the engine of heat delaying the time to get to working temperature if used in cold weather.

rgds

I have decided to go for the Truma monocontrol cs regulator as this is what Truma recommends for using gas heating while driving.

just one thing I understand how this monocontrol cs regulator works if involved in a bump but what I’m not sure of is yes I can run the gas when in motion but do I need power to run the blow air heating.

As far as I’m aware when you turn on the ignition it switches of all the electrics in the habitation area so how does the heating blower work.

Doug, yes I have heard of this and, from what I have read, this seems to be a 'rule' to do with UK build regs?....ie 12v systems go off when the engine is on...

this is not an issue with our van, or other continental models...

as a quick test, before you buy all the kit, start the van, turn in the gas, try and fire up the heater and check what the fan does....

or do it the other way round...fire up the heating I gas mode, ensure the fan is running, then start the van.....if it goes off you have your answer and may ay need to check with the dealer re thise regs I mentioned..

something to do with NCC?

good luck.