PCSC Bill

A difficult one.  The powers would be helpful in controlling the less desirable elements of the traveling community if the authorities have the courage to use them.  Sadly they may also have some unfair and unintended consequences.

I had written a reply but when I re-read it I realised that it wouldn't pass muster by the Moderators as being too political in tone.

Suffice for me to say I think this bill stinks and shouldn't see the light of day. The French would quite rightly revolt if they tried to pass this in France yet we are slumbering into acquiescence by default.

Do LV’ers think the old bill will raid C&MC sites to kick the doors down & arrest you🤷🏻‍♂️. I think it’s to stop folk taking up layby’s as permanent residence & throwing/leaving their waste around.

Agreed, Rocky. Although folk may well have strong opinions on the bill one way or the other, it’s got little to do with LVs used for leisure purposes and far more to do with the taking over of land such as car parks, lay-bys and cliff tops for permanent residential use.

This bill has been discussed on other forums and the view is it does not target those that stopover legally or with the landowners permission. Whats not to like?

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I think it’s like many things that have vocal lobbies & interested parties the main points are lost. It’s not against good people it gives authorities a weapon to use against the lazy littering abusers. When push comes to shove it helps the whole country to feel better served. Portugal & Spain who have traditionally welcomed wild campers have changed their attitude due to the abuse(environmental) they’ve suffered. It’s gone from a way of life to a way of getting something for nothing as the freeloaders have jumped on the wagon🤷🏻‍♂️

.....those very freeloaders who give us a bad name. Those who are law abiding have nothing to fear and I can't see the bill has any relevance to legitimate leisure users or to this section of the forum.

I won't be signing.

 

Only ever wild camped on extremely rare occasions, mostly by necessity and only then ‘occupied’ land just over night and for one night at a time. I really don’t think this act is aimed at occasional folk. I’m sure that sensible constable would check or ask to establish if ‘residency’ was to be extended to more than 24hrs before seizing property.

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Travellers are not part of this bill David.