Newbie motorhomer

i do have a lockable filler, uses same key as other van lockers.

im guessing the reason for the Whale-type install is not so much to protect your water supply, which is easily sorted by buying a lockable water filler cap, but more to do with giving more versatility to the filling process...

Probably neither BB, just they had some lying round and knew they worked on caravans so why not try them on the M/H's  either way it doesn't matter does it, we like what we have and you like what you have. Should we change to a differant van we would just use what was fitted, if we didn't like it we would change it.

We have the same filling system as TG, never thought it a problem, in fact, we prefer it to the open hole filling as, no matter how careful you are, there is always the possability of allowing cantaminents to enter your tank, (mud  etc.) How often do you wash your hose on  the outside?....

i do have a lockable filler, uses same key as other van lockers.

im guessing the reason for the Whale-type install is not so much to protect your water supply, which is easily sorted by buying a lockable water filler cap, but more to do with giving more versatility to the filling process...

Probably neither BB, just they had some lying round and knew they worked on caravans so why not try them on the M/H's  either way it doesn't matter does it, we like what we have and you like what you have. Should we change to a differant van we would just use what was fitted, if we didn't like it we would change it.

absolutely agree....

I agree a hose would be easier as well, but the Truma Ultraflow unit fitted to my MH does have some advantages :

- I can hook up the MH to mains water when staying on a site long-term using one of these

- I can re-fill the tank using using a standard hose fitted with one of these direct from the tap 

- I can use one of these and a 23L Roll Tank when convenient

Quite a bit of kit, I know, but I have the space and payload and it gives maximum flexibility.  I could even use a normal hose or watering can, filling direct to the onboard tank under one of the beds, if all else failed!

One school of thought suggests that the most obvious reason for the fitting of the pistol type water connection on MHs, rather than a lockable cap, is to stop diesel being put in the water tank and vice versa.

I've heard of mis-filling tanks of both MHs and boats, especially where hire fleets are concerned! and I can recall a post on here a while back from someone asking how to clean his fresh water tank after having accidentally put diesel in it.

again, this could be a valid reason...

to compensate, on my Fiat based vehicle my fuel filler (beneath a flap) can only be opened using the ignition key, same as a car would be...whereas the lockable water filler cap is unlocked with a separate key, the one that unlocks all the other outside lockers.

also, the fuel filler is up front and the water filler is two thirds of the way back....

despite this, i can see how it might be done if the fillers are adjacent....but i would also suggest this wouldnt be very sensible of the converter.

Our fuel filler is hidden inside the passenger door whereas our water filler is midships on the offside. Imagine a complete newbie who has no idea that the passenger door has to be opened to access the diesel filler........

However, our water filler is via the pistol grip connector, I'm pleased to say.

Our fuel filler is behind a flap on the N/S wing and you need the Ign key to remove it and the water filler is half way down the side and you need a locker key to remove the flap to fill it ,it also has a label round it that says " fresh water" , it also has a outboard pump to fill from a aquaroll ,which I don't bother with .....

Autotrail 700

 

Write your comments here...No, all you need is a hose with the correct fitting , and a convenient tap, to fill your onboard tank.  

What is a non 'normal filller' arrangement? I can't imagine what it must look like. My 30 Litre m/h onboard tank is filled via a lockable petrol filler cap type of arrangement on the side of the body into which I can easily empty a 5L container in about 20 seconds.

I cannot see why all m/h wouldn't be designed like that.

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30 ltrs doesn't sound like muchbut I agree with you and subscribe to the acronym KISS.  My solution is a 10 litre ridgid water carrier a 5litre water container (we don't use "system" water for drinking) a short length of hose and a collapsible funnel. With these I can deal with any scenario. With an easily accesible tap I can use the hose to fill up otherwise two water containers x 4 trips. Easy reliable and low tech. 

And the work carrying 15kg from the tap compensates for not going to the gym that day or so I like to think.