New emissions regs for diesel

SDSPPI replied on 06/05/2017 10:33

Posted on 06/05/2017 10:33

Hi,

I'm very confused about these new regs for diesel vehicles - there seem to be lots of info about cars, but what about larger vehicles like motorhomes? It all seems very depressing - we'll soon not be able to go far in France, or may not even be able to keep our motorhome on our own drive. Should we just sell it as quickly as possible? How much trouble are we going to get in if we don't have a Crit'Air sticker? Was really looking forward to going to Normandy in May, but now we don't know how much red tape and issues there are going to be with our 51 plate motorhome! 

Milothedog replied on 06/05/2017 10:55

Posted on 06/05/2017 10:55

I think you need to look at individual factors, How heavy is it. is it euro 2,3, 4 etc and where you live and intend to got to.

Here in London it's not a promising picture when the ULEZ comes in to force, 

I met someone  local last year with an excellent condition Talbot coachbuilt MH. he had to pay out over £2000 to have a particulate trap fitted to it, to make it LEZ compliant so he could keep it at home and store it on his drive.

From what I understand, he has wasted his money when the new London regs are applied as even with the CRT fitted it won't meet the new requirements.

CraigPowell replied on 06/05/2017 12:24

Posted on 06/05/2017 12:24

I cam across this site https://www.umwelt-plakette.de/en/store.html which focuses on Germany. I think the devil is in the detail of your journey and where you plan to travel, and if you want to enter the city zones. For example we were planning on a stop in Wuppertal for a quick ride on the overhead railway there, this is now out of the question without paying for a Vignette style disc... no issues on the autobahn or outside or urban areas I don't "think"... I think if you plan to visit many cities it makes it a little more difficult.

Be good for the club to start compiling some formal advice and resources on this?

Tammygirl replied on 06/05/2017 14:46

Posted on 06/05/2017 14:46

We have a euro 5 engine and purchased both the French and Germany stickers prior to coming over a week ago, cost for both was 11 euro + postage, not a great deal for us and we can go into cities if we have to. Not sure about the older vans though.

DavidKlyne replied on 06/05/2017 15:57

Posted on 06/05/2017 15:57

Germany have had restrictions in place for some years now in major cities but In don't recall reading about it spoiling anyone's holiday? Often the restrictions only apply to the centres of the places in the scheme and I wonder how many people actually venture into the centre of large cities rather than staying outside and using public transport for the final leg. Like Tammygirl we have both the German Umweltplackette (green) and CRIT air (yellow) for our euro 5 engined motohome so I don't envisage any difficulties. Euro 4 and early engines might be more problematic. Having said that France is a pretty big country and you could tour for years without going anywhere near a low emission zone!

David  

EJB986 replied on 06/05/2017 16:07

Posted on 06/05/2017 16:07

In Germany where Stellplatz and campsites are in restricted areas they often have an authorised route of access for none compliers. Obviously there aren't manywink

My 2002 Ducato has a green sticker but that's another story! 

 

PS. There is a large 'Sticky' with all the information.

Tigi replied on 06/05/2017 19:19

Posted on 06/05/2017 19:19

Only Paris, Lyon and Grenoble are affected in France up to now. Lyon is not an issue if you are passing through on the A6.

CraigPowell replied on 09/05/2017 20:54

Posted on 06/05/2017 16:07 by EJB986

In Germany where Stellplatz and campsites are in restricted areas they often have an authorised route of access for none compliers. Obviously there aren't manywink

My 2002 Ducato has a green sticker but that's another story! 

 

PS. There is a large 'Sticky' with all the information.

Posted on 09/05/2017 20:54

Where is the sticky post if you don't mind?

Ours is indeed a little big for trundling around city centres but sometimes there's a need or e.g. Stuttgart you skirt the city (can't believe that road would be subject to restriction?).

Better to be properly informed though rather than a big fine from an opportunistic bobby!

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