Motorhome Weight

hitchglitch replied on 26/05/2017 12:24

Posted on 26/05/2017 12:24

Well I just took the Auto-sleepers to the public weighbridge and got some reassuring information. Total weight 3440 kg fully laden with more water than we usually carry. Although this is 60 kg under the maximum, we have the low profile version and don't take much equipment. I think if we had the version with the cab overhead space we might have had a problem.

I am, however, no nearer solving the tyre pressure problem because the back axle at 1940kg is much higher than front so have emailed Continental again. For now I am keeping to the Peugeot recommendation of 5 Bar front, 5.5 Bar rear which is a very high front pressure for the tyre load. 

By the way, the weighbridge is free if the guy just scribbles down the weights for you, £12 for a print-out. 

RichardandMandy replied on 03/06/2017 14:26

Posted on 03/06/2017 14:26

I have the Swift Lifestyle 630L based on the 2004 Fiat Ducato 2.8jtd. I know the previous owner had it weighed with full tanks plus personal gear and it weighed just under 3500kg, I don't know the weight distribution between axels but wondered if you could estimate pressures for my 215/75/16s.  According to the book they should be 5.5 bar all round !

Thanks, Richard 

hitchglitch replied on 11/06/2017 14:49

Posted on 01/06/2017 09:56 by KeithandMargaret

This is a reply given to a MHFacts member a few years ago - the weights are similar to yours, and also my MH, and I run the pressures as he advised -

'Last Sunday, I emailed Continental Tyres to ask what my tyre pressures should be. I offered the relevant tyre details... Fiat Ducato, X2/50, tyres information: 215/70 R 15 CP 109R

I included my axle weights which resulted from my last visit to a weighbridge... Yes, I do take my own advice!

Rear axle - 1900kg (max 2000)
Front axle - 1540kg (max 1850)
Gross - 3440 kg (max 3500)

The following is the reply from Craig, the Product Support Engineer of Continental Automobil. He has consented to having his reply published on MHF:

The pressures you require are as follows:

Front: 3.25bar - 47psi pressure applicable to a maximum permissible load of1590kg. 1850kg Max loading at 4bar - 58psi (1875kg maximum at this pressure)

Rear: 4.25bar - 61psi pressure applicable to a maximum permissible load of1970kg. 2000kg Max loading at 4.5bar - 65psi (2060kg maximum at this pressure)

As a general rule for pressures on this tyre, every 100kg added from the base figure of 1490kg at 3bar (43.5psi) will require an increase of 0.25bar(3.6psi) in pressure up to a maximum of 2060kg at 4.5bar (65psi)

We do get a substantial amount of queries regarding pressures. Unfortunately, there is a distinct lack of understanding on the subject which isn't helped by the apparent reluctance of coach-builders to specify the pressures required. Naturally, all pressures are dependent on load so providing any queries received contain the information requested, we can advise accordingly. I've helped a few other organisers of motorhome/camping clubs and associations in the past so we are all working to educating the consumers as to what is required. Hopefully this will provide a greater understanding for them.' 

Posted on 11/06/2017 14:49

Thanks K&M, this is very similar to the advice I have now had from Continental and as you say the weights are similar to my van. It means that I could reduce the rear pressures by a small amount and the front by a massive amount. I will give it a try later in the year on a shorter trip but my feeling is that it won't help a great deal because all the vibration and firm ride seems to be from the back. Also I would have to live with the warning light on the dash.

It is helpful to know the real information rather than the erroneous advice from dealer and manufacturer and also frustrating that it is unlikely that the monitor can be recalibrated but I will ask the question at the first Peugeot service.

young thomas replied on 14/06/2017 17:25

Posted on 14/06/2017 17:25

well done, Hitch, got there in the end....what pressures did Continental recommend?

FYI, ive checked for TPMS on my van and, while the handbook shows various different instrument clusters, i cant see the warning light where it 'should be' if it was fitted.

perhaps we dont have it. either way, im not that bothered bearing in mind some of the 'unhelpful' comtributions ive read about from (especially) Peugeot....

hitchglitch replied on 25/06/2017 20:44

Posted on 14/06/2017 17:25 by young thomas

well done, Hitch, got there in the end....what pressures did Continental recommend?

FYI, ive checked for TPMS on my van and, while the handbook shows various different instrument clusters, i cant see the warning light where it 'should be' if it was fitted.

perhaps we dont have it. either way, im not that bothered bearing in mind some of the 'unhelpful' comtributions ive read about from (especially) Peugeot....

Posted on 25/06/2017 20:44

Recommendation was 3.25 bar front and 5.5 bar rear. The rear is only .25 bar less than the Peugeot figures but the front is massively lower.  

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