Motorhome fuel

Qashqai66 replied on 21/02/2019 11:14

Posted on 21/02/2019 11:14

This week has seen another surge in the enthusiasm for electrification of vehicles with the tragic decision by Honda to withdraw from the UK.  All of this makes me wonder about the wisdom of investing a huge sum in a diesel driven motorhome.  Why do others think is going to happen to diesel driven vehicles?

DavidKlyne replied on 23/02/2019 17:20

Posted on 23/02/2019 17:20

I still maintain that anyone buying a current diesel motorhome and is of a certain age will be able to get the number of years they require out of it. Whether it will be worth anything in 15/20 years time is I suppose questionable!  

New technology, will of course, develop at a pace. But if we look at the price of current electric vehicles, electric motorhomes will have an additional premium which may make them less attractive. I suppose it will all be relative and it will be down to affordability v need/desire.

David

replied on 23/02/2019 17:42

Posted on 23/02/2019 13:50 by ATDel

Why should the CAMC pay for your fuel? I have to pay for my deisel so im sure you should be paying for your fuel ie electric. Nothing in this life is free someone pays and if people want electric vehicles they should pay for the fuel and not expect others to do so there by subsidising the travelling costs

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Randomcamper replied on 24/02/2019 13:05

Posted on 23/02/2019 17:42 by

You misread my comment.  I agree with you.  If CC Ltd continues to provide free EV charging they should also provide free diesel and petrol.

Posted on 24/02/2019 13:05

You are, of course, correct.

But the situation only exists at the moment because it falls into the "too hard" box to do anything about it without spending a fortune and making unpopular decisions.....

Providing dedicated fast chargers on sites, for a fee, will only result in people discreetly charging EV's on their pitch with a slow charge from the caravan. Even if that is made against the rules, who is going to police those rules, I doubt there is much appetite amongst wardens to be constantly patrolling the site looking for leads from caravans to cars....

The only answer can be metered electric. As said, installing meters costs money, will be unpopular with some and even assuming they are modern remotely read meters adds an extra layer of admin/billing....

As EV's become more prevalent, and that will be very soon, the club faces big capital expenditure and unpopular decisions.  Anyway. look on the bright side, it will be something different to talk about on here......smile

replied on 24/02/2019 13:21

Posted on 24/02/2019 13:05 by Randomcamper

You are, of course, correct.

But the situation only exists at the moment because it falls into the "too hard" box to do anything about it without spending a fortune and making unpopular decisions.....

Providing dedicated fast chargers on sites, for a fee, will only result in people discreetly charging EV's on their pitch with a slow charge from the caravan. Even if that is made against the rules, who is going to police those rules, I doubt there is much appetite amongst wardens to be constantly patrolling the site looking for leads from caravans to cars....

The only answer can be metered electric. As said, installing meters costs money, will be unpopular with some and even assuming they are modern remotely read meters adds an extra layer of admin/billing....

As EV's become more prevalent, and that will be very soon, the club faces big capital expenditure and unpopular decisions.  Anyway. look on the bright side, it will be something different to talk about on here......smile

Posted on 24/02/2019 13:21

I doubt there is much appetite amongst wardens to be constantly patrolling the site looking for leads from caravans to cars.

I don't presently see a great problem in the next 5 years. If somebody with a motorhome tows an EV and wishes to charge from caravan I see no difference from present. Presumably they tow because they want to use it during the day. at present a few owners tow a second car and as such will have little impact. I see no great change in the numbers doing so. If considering full EV tow vehicles and motorhomes we are a way down the line. 

Randomcamper replied on 24/02/2019 13:48

Posted on 24/02/2019 13:48

"I don't presently see a great problem in the next 5 years."

"we  are a way down the line".

I had digressed to talking about EV cars really ET......

Whether we are five years away  I don't know. I personally reckon that things will happen quickly now, every advert I see on TV and in the motoring press emphasises an EV. Nobody seems to even bother advertising  a non EV or at least PHEV( car) nowadays..........

But even if it is five years before they are a lot more common (and I very much doubt it will be that long), there is the site infrastructure to consider as well as just the metering or cost of electricity being used on site.  Once a good number of people start plugging in EV's the site cableing and incoming supply may very well need looking at.

replied on 24/02/2019 14:06

Posted on 24/02/2019 14:06

Personally I doubt that in less than 5 years there will be many towcars on site that are just EV. Or that there are motorhomes solely EV. 

At present are there any sites providing the facility? 

Randomcamper replied on 24/02/2019 14:10

Posted on 24/02/2019 14:06 by

Personally I doubt that in less than 5 years there will be many towcars on site that are just EV. Or that there are motorhomes solely EV. 

At present are there any sites providing the facility? 

Posted on 24/02/2019 14:10

We've probably got different views of how fast the future will arrive then.....wink

Have I read somewhere that there a couple of club sites with Fast Chargers,  Brighton ??? and I seem to recall seeing one at Black Knowl......??

Might have just been me dreaming........or having a nightmare if you're a petrolhead....!!

 

But given that CT posts seem to resurrect themselves every few years we will be able to see who was closest to the truth one day.....wink

replied on 24/02/2019 15:18

Posted on 24/02/2019 15:18

A firm called Caravan Park Electricals did provide EV charging facilities on Brighton site in Summer of 2014 'the first of many' apparently. Can't see it listed in facilities or shown on site plans however.

rayjsj replied on 02/03/2019 12:08

Posted on 21/02/2019 20:46 by Tinwheeler

"Industry and commerce are much bigger users of gas than householders and will need supplies to continue for them."

What about gas fired electricity generating stations, I wonder?🤔

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:08

Anyone else remember the 'rush for Gas' converting  all power stations to Gas ??  do any of 'them' know what they are talking about ?

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