Electric space heater

Another DaveB replied on 04/11/2021 09:22

Posted on 04/11/2021 09:22

We are just approaching our first winter in a Swift Select 184. We have a Truma dual energy water heater, but what we only realised last week for the first time was that the space heating is gas only. We had been expecting to be able to keep using the van during cold weather if we were using an electric hookup pitch, and run the water heater, space heater (and mini kettle to boot!) all off electric (though not necessarily at the same time!) to save on precious gas (for which we have still only been able to get 3.9kg cylinders).

So, coming to the point, for anyone who continues to use their van over winter, and doesn't have a built-in electric heater, what do you use to keep the space warm other than the gas?

The main choice seems to be between noisy but fast fan heaters & quiet but slow oil-filled heaters. However, I'm more particularly interested in actual models, with good/bad points from people's experience. There's a huge variety out there on the market of both types, not forgetting that 1kW is about 4A and 2kW twice that, and there are very few <1kW heaters (which would be slower to warm up a given space anyway).

Thanks!

young thomas replied on 05/11/2021 09:28

Posted on 05/11/2021 09:28

Yes, it's definitely horses for courses...

for users like yourself, always on sites with EHU (probably with three pots stacked on the single hot plate) gas usage will be at a minimum...

we have a gas oven, no electric hot plate (3 gas rings), camp regularly without EHU, all year round, so usage will be at the other end of the scale.

it really depends where the OP sits as to whether swapping two small bottles will be a regular pain or not an issue...

either way, being equipped with two 3.9 when the spec says two 6kg should be addressed when stocks become available.

JVB66 replied on 05/11/2021 09:47

Posted on 05/11/2021 09:28 by young thomas

Yes, it's definitely horses for courses...

for users like yourself, always on sites with EHU (probably with three pots stacked on the single hot plate) gas usage will be at a minimum...

we have a gas oven, no electric hot plate (3 gas rings), camp regularly without EHU, all year round, so usage will be at the other end of the scale.

it really depends where the OP sits as to whether swapping two small bottles will be a regular pain or not an issue...

either way, being equipped with two 3.9 when the spec says two 6kg should be addressed when stocks become available.

Posted on 05/11/2021 09:47

As you say depends on usage, ,on the upside for us more space in gas locker with 3.9kg ,we only normally have been  carrying one  cylinder for the First 18months then have a full in the car for when? the one fitted runs out smile

,PS veg are normally done in microwave ,and we have a. Lidl mini ovencool

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Another DaveB replied on 05/11/2021 10:21

Posted on 04/11/2021 20:14 by KjellNN

I would echo this......have back up for as many systems as possible.

Our back ups include a fan heater, a good charger, a spare water pump, a spare toilet pump, fuses, bulbs, a cool box, and a comprehensive tool kit.

Posted on 05/11/2021 10:21

Yes... learnt that the hard way, having managed to blow the fuse for the dashboard 12V/USB charging socket. Not only did I have no spare fuses at the time, I wouldn't have been able to fit one since the Fiat Ducato cab fuses are under the bonnet tucked away into an almost inaccessible corner needing a screwdriver to get the cover off...!

Another DaveB replied on 05/11/2021 10:27

Posted on 05/11/2021 08:56 by young thomas

I see you have two 3.9,g bottles but the spec says the lockers are designed for twin 6kg bottles...is this a stopgap until the dealer gets you some correct sized units?

carrying just 7.8 kg of gas over two bottles (not refillable) means a lot of bottle swapping...

depending on your camping habits, this might be continual pain....

Posted on 05/11/2021 10:27

Correct, should be 2x 6kg.

When we picked the van up the dealer showed us over it then said "you have brought your own bottle haven't you?" We said no, he said "well you can borrow the one that's in it while you stay overnight, but you'll have to give it back in the morning, there's a huge shortage of bottles..." Which I do remember reading about last year, but had thought was all over by now, given that Calor et al had had a year or more to get sorted out for a whole load more leisure vehicles out there requiring bottles.

Thankfully, the dealer's on-site shop did have one 3.9kg left, no 6kg. In theory, that can be swapped up when emptied to a 6kg, but Calor are still refusing to give 6kg bottles out unless you've got a 6kg to give back.

We then got a second 3.9kg bottle from Flogas - again, at present you can't get 6kg from them, unless you've got a 6kg bottle to hand back.

 

young thomas replied on 05/11/2021 14:34

Posted on 05/11/2021 14:34

What's your usage pattern going to be like?

...camp all year round?, camp off grid? Camp overseas where these tiny bottles can't be swapped when they run out?

the more 'ticks' to the above list, the more I would consider a refillable system. A pair of 6kg incl filling nozzle easily available now on eBay..

not cheap but depends on camping style and will have a large residual if you ever want to sell.

Another DaveB replied on 08/11/2021 11:29

Posted on 05/11/2021 14:34 by young thomas

What's your usage pattern going to be like?

...camp all year round?, camp off grid? Camp overseas where these tiny bottles can't be swapped when they run out?

the more 'ticks' to the above list, the more I would consider a refillable system. A pair of 6kg incl filling nozzle easily available now on eBay..

not cheap but depends on camping style and will have a large residual if you ever want to sell.

Posted on 08/11/2021 11:29

Yep, that's another option, and one I have contemplated. Saving the cash for a towbar+4x bike carrier at present though:-)

 

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