Deal done, caravan to motorhome

dougA replied on 03/05/2017 19:53

Posted on 03/05/2017 19:53

Hi all, been caravaning for a few years now and purchased two new caravans in the last 2 years. We have now decided that a motorhome is what we really want.

Take delivery of a new Elddis Platnium Edition 196 on the 12th May. So I am now a newbie again as I have never owned a motorhome. 

Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Just a couple of question for now and it may be obvious but I'm not sure. When setting off from home do I fill the (100 litre) fresh water tank or part fill it. When on site for a few days do you drive van to drainage point on site to empty the grey water or stay on pitch and empty into wastemaster or similar.

thanks in advance 

Dougie 👍🏼

 

hitchglitch replied on 05/05/2017 18:02

Posted on 05/05/2017 08:25 by young thomas

hitch, for info, yes you can go back. the 3500 to 3650 scenario is a common one but does not preclude a 'paper' return to 3500 if reqd.

our van (as do most 'light' chassied Carthagos) came plated at 3650. as the van was specced with the 'tougher, higher load rated 16" wheels, it had another plate for 3850.

but as we wanted to keep the van at 3500, we get that plate....fun, eh?

our fully loaded weights (incl full water, gas, fuel, clothes, food, bikes, and everything i could find at home) were 1600 front and 1820 rear.

Doug, its this rear axle weight (max 2000kg on a std 3.5t Fiat/Peugeot chassis) that is vulnerable and is likely to be breached prior to reaching 3500 overall weight, especially with vans with longer rear overhangs and load capacity at the rear.

if this happens then (despite appearing to have plenty of weight left 'overall) then 'something' physical needs to be done to uprate the rear axle.....tyre change and/or chassis mods, but youre a long way off any of this yet, just visit a weighbridge, get both axle weights and work from there.

Hitch, i spoke to Continental re tyre pressures and (incredibly) sent me back their 225/75 16 CP pressure table and recommendations...

Continental tyre pressures as follows.....
Front Axle: 1600 Kg - 3.0 bar/ 43.5 psi
Rear Axle: 1820 Kg - 3.75 bar/ 54.3 psi 

This seemed very low but got them changed for this Devon trip and all seems well.

certainly a mile away from most dealers' efforts of 80 psi all round, hence rock hard ride.

let me know how you get on, good luck.

Posted on 05/05/2017 18:02

BB, tyre pressure is an interesting topic with plenty of bad or incorrect advice including from main dealers. I have posted separately on this but my intention is to use the figures given to me by Continental's experts as you have done.  This will mean the low pressure warning on all the time but it should be a more comfortable ride.

JVB66 replied on 05/05/2017 18:08

Posted on 05/05/2017 18:02 by hitchglitch

Tyre pressure is an interesting topic with plenty of bad or incorrect advice including from main dealers. I have posted separately on this but my intention is to use the figures given to me by Continental's experts. This will mean the low pressure warning on all the time but it should be a more comfortable ride.

Posted on 05/05/2017 18:08

On our last motor caravan the hand book gave recommended tyre pressures for each model,much lower than on door frame,but still did not after about 50 miles  give a comfortable ride 😟 

young thomas replied on 05/05/2017 18:11

Posted on 05/05/2017 18:11

good luck with that, its a shame that these cant be recalibrated simply to the owners reqirements.

i dont have this TPMS so wont get too much bleepingsmile

ive always felt that the tyre manufacturer would have the best understanding of how their product worked under different loads.

i believe Michelin are equally forthcoming with their data, Continental were very speedy to reply and only needed a few bits of information from the tyre wall to return the correct pressure info.

thebroons replied on 05/05/2017 19:47

Posted on 05/05/2017 19:47

Our Hobby m/h has a low but long rear overhang and so far only the Corran ferry caused the towbar to ground out on and off the ferry.

Try and go on the ramps at an angle and don't let anyone rush you. 

Enjoy the new found freedom a motorhome brings. 

Tigi replied on 05/05/2017 20:37

Posted on 05/05/2017 20:37

We followed the theory of the easy off motorhome for the three we owned but then began to come to the conclusion that spending time on public transport from the campsite rather offsets it.

Arrivakids replied on 07/05/2017 14:51

Posted on 07/05/2017 14:51

Welcome , we too changed in January from years of having a Caravan.We hope to buy a  couple of Electric Bikes , but for now we are walking miles and miles with the two dogs so that has to be good . As for filling up before you set off we are on a  Water Meter so i would rather fill up on site it can be a  ball ache if its raining otherwise does not take too much time .. If you compare the two they both have good and bad points but for us we can get away quicker with the Motor home. In Fact we have been away the last three weekends more to follow then Skegness and then France ..

young thomas replied on 08/05/2017 14:33

Posted on 08/05/2017 14:33

yes, some sites can have low water pressure and th fill can take some time....on others, the water seems to gush from the tap and we are full in no time....

glad to see you're making the most of your van, we too have ebikes (as does almost every motorhomer on continental sites) and have done many, many trips on them.

mine's about to click over 10,000 km and with OH having hers for a couple of years more and accompanying me on most of the trips she may have actually done more in total on hers... 

great fun.

Leticia2 replied on 17/05/2017 17:26

Posted on 17/05/2017 17:26

Look for sites that have nearby bus services. You can have days out and interact with the locals and apart from Wales it is free if you are of a certain age. No worry where to park and a relaxed ride to view the area. 

hitchglitch replied on 17/05/2017 21:59

Posted on 17/05/2017 21:59

We were reborn when we bough th Motorhome last year. Suddenly we felt that we could go anywhere without worrying about the roads being too narrow, too steep, too isolated etc. So much easier to set off and little to do upon arrival.

I could give you a long list of things that we have learned but the main one is not to go out and buy a load of new stuff until you have done a couple of trips. We spent the first year buying things and now, in the second year, have been using eBay to get rid of most of them.

Because it is so easy to move away, the only thing I worry about is to raise the steadies if I have put them down (which we often don't bother with). I put the brace on the floor in front of the driving seat! Can't move off with the EHU plugged in because the engine won't start, the gas is self contained in an under slung tank and the step retracts when the engine is started. Couldn't get much easier!

dougA replied on 18/05/2017 06:32

Posted on 18/05/2017 06:32

Hi all, just an update as been busy. Collected our first motorhome last Friday. Handover from Perthshire caravans was excellent and a full demo on how all works.

Not had an overnight stay in it yet but been out a couple of times for a day trip to try it out. On first impressions I love it. I would never have taken the caravan out for a day.......its just so easy to get up and go and all water, waste and gas onboard.

As for the size of the motorhome it doesn't seem to stop me driving into towns, supermarket car parks etc.

Ive also loaded the MH up and filled the water tank to 50% and I'm still well within the weight limit 👍🏼.

Yes great advice on here. I have sold a lot of accessories from my caravan which are not suitable for the MH. To date I have bought a couple of security devices and a silver screen as I have read a lot of great reports on them for summer and winter. As mentioned on here I will just buy accessories if and when required.

Overall I am well pleased with our new Elddis. Lots of added extras as its a dealer special and plenty of room inside. Great to drive and already notice the advantages with the solar panel and the reversing camera.

Keep the replies coming as I'm sure there's a lot to learn yet and any tips welcome.

Cheers 😀👍🏼

Dougie

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