Best buy/don't buy leisure batteries article?

Red King replied on 05/01/2020 11:26

Posted on 05/01/2020 11:26

I need to replace my leisure battery. There was an article in the club magazine 'recently' in which the lab checked various batteries by cutting them in half. Some were complete cons, mostly empty space. Three brands were recommended. 

Yes, I know I should have cut out the page. Yes, I know every issue for the past 12 months is online at caravanclub.co.uk/news-features/club-magazine/archive/ But can I find it despite looking at the contents page of every issue three times? Can I ****!

So could some kind soul who did keep it tell me which ones were recommended or at least which issue?

Thanks in anticipation

R

Red King replied on 05/01/2020 20:16

Posted on 05/01/2020 20:16

No, not Which?. 

If it weren't for the fact that my wife remembers reading it too, I would wonder seriously if I had dreamt it.

I remember in particular reading the point that leisure batteries are different from starter batteries in needed to give a long-lasting supply rather than an instant high-tension oomph.

I'll will drop an email to the Club technical support desk.

Red King replied on 05/01/2020 20:22

Posted on 05/01/2020 11:33 by Metheven

Was it this one?

Battery Article

Posted on 05/01/2020 20:22

Yes, it really must have been that one. 

It can only be that it surfaced in some spring clean a few months ago and I never noticed the date. Far be it from me to say that one C&MC magazine is pretty indistinguishable from the ones on either side of it. A bit like caravans, really cool

Red King replied on 05/01/2020 20:34

Posted on 05/01/2020 20:34

I tried a google search for "code of practice: Specification for Auxiliary Batteries" (in various combinations), which the 2013 article was expecting "any time now". Answer came there none...

replied on 05/01/2020 20:46

Posted on 05/01/2020 20:34 by Red King

I tried a google search for "code of practice: Specification for Auxiliary Batteries" (in various combinations), which the 2013 article was expecting "any time now". Answer came there none...

Posted on 05/01/2020 20:46

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Rufs replied on 06/01/2020 08:23

Posted on 05/01/2020 11:58 by peedee

Batteries are a minefield, you cannot even rely on those approved by the NCC. It is not unknown for unscrupulous mnufacturers to put concrete in them to make them appear to contain a good quantity of lead! Like you I did not know what was best to buy but my existing battery had performed well for 8 years so I bought a replacement of the same brand, a Lucas but AGM instead of lead acid..

peedee

Posted on 06/01/2020 08:23

ditto, always use the tried and tested, have been useing Numax for years , original battery of 8 years old just replaced when i put a new mover on van, I know some would not touch Numax with a barge pole but each to their own. My old battery still being used in a caravan with no mover, still powers the basics no problem. 

peedee replied on 06/01/2020 08:35

Posted on 06/01/2020 08:35

I think with the advent of "movers" it has changed the requirements. You now need a more robust battery. Prior to the introduction of movers any old car battery would have done if you spent most of your nights away on hook up. This no longer seems to be the case with most opting to have a mover.

There was a lot of debate about battery quality on the MMM forum. It questioned the quality of many well known brands and standards among them the NCC's approval.

peedee.

 

Rufs replied on 06/01/2020 08:46

Posted on 06/01/2020 08:35 by peedee

I think with the advent of "movers" it has changed the requirements. You now need a more robust battery. Prior to the introduction of movers any old car battery would have done if you spent most of your nights away on hook up. This no longer seems to be the case with most opting to have a mover.

There was a lot of debate about battery quality on the MMM forum. It questioned the quality of many well known brands and standards among them the NCC's approval.

peedee.

 

Posted on 06/01/2020 08:46

agree, new movers need a very robust battery, I have a new powertouch mover which stops working if the battery charge drops below something like 11.5 volts, that is the only reason why i had to install a new battery, old battery failed at a very inconvenient time. Have to say have not put new battery to much of a test, but heres hoping it will be ok undecided

young thomas replied on 06/01/2020 08:50

Posted on 06/01/2020 08:50

this article from A and N caravans was almost certainly compiled by the late Allan Evans, a much respectd contributor to MMM and the like.

when i was 'messing about' with electric golf trolleys to amuse myself after retiring, my own view was that Sonneshein and Yuasa were (by a fair bit) the best (real life) performing batteries i came across.

i see these are still marketed Tanya and recommended by Allan.

the Bosch L/Varta LFD and Yuasa L36 EFB seem to have very good comments.

ocsid replied on 06/01/2020 14:13

Posted on 06/01/2020 14:13

Despite being from October 2010, the late much missed John Wickersham's "Power Players" IMO remains good solid advice.


https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/6552072/technical.pdf


A motorhome has a somewhat challenging ask, in that whilst the attributes of a leisure battery are great for providing the power, these can be in problems in that those touring off a hook up want a fast on route charge. Something that can do the better leisure batteries no favours.

Maybe it is a case of not spending too much as these users are going to damage these specialist batteries? [ or spend a real fortune exploring lithium technologies as these can cope better, well some can]


Reportedly the NCC data base is from info the battery brand holders submit, not on independent testing of those claims, and we can all remember what transpired with the integrity of those claims back when John did his testing.

Vasilis replied on 16/01/2020 17:25

Posted on 05/01/2020 11:26 by Red King

I need to replace my leisure battery. There was an article in the club magazine 'recently' in which the lab checked various batteries by cutting them in half. Some were complete cons, mostly empty space. Three brands were recommended. 

Yes, I know I should have cut out the page. Yes, I know every issue for the past 12 months is online at caravanclub.co.uk/news-features/club-magazine/archive/ But can I find it despite looking at the contents page of every issue three times? Can I ****!

So could some kind soul who did keep it tell me which ones were recommended or at least which issue?

Thanks in anticipation

R

Posted on 16/01/2020 17:25

Out of the nine makes of battery tested, Varta, Banner, and Exide were the ones that came up to specification. Have just found out that AGM batteries need a compatible charger by the way. Not every charger is suitable. The wrong one could cause damage to battery, the charger or the alternator on your motorhome or towing vehicle. Something to check out before buying your battery.

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