AdBlue

fatbelly replied on 21/01/2017 10:58

Posted on 21/01/2017 10:58

Hi we get our Bailey MH soon and we need to put something called AdBlue into it!!! Which prior to ordered our MH I've never heard of.

I've seen it in Halfords at £14 for 10 litres. How often will I need to fill the AdBlue tank? Is it something I need to take with me or is it a long term thing?

Thanks

ocsid replied on 23/01/2017 10:33

Posted on 23/01/2017 10:33

My understanding is that the amount of Adblue consumed is affected by the loading put on the engine, so the ECU calls up the required level of injection, and the amount of reliance the engine design places on the alternative technology to control NOx, ie EGR.

With the hassle I can put down to EGR, then the more the designers lean towards Adblue injection and away from EGR technology the better. Almost anything is worth a try to avoid high levels of EGR technology from my point of view.

My Disco 4 left the showroom with an indicated 13 k miles of Adblue, now at 4100 miles, its indicating 11ks worth left so will get to its annual service that does include replenishment. Being so frugal hints it could still have a significant level of that awful EGR technologyfrown . Mileage was 50% towing and near zero of urban type driving.

fatbelly replied on 05/02/2018 17:43

Posted on 05/02/2018 17:43

As an update, we've now had our MH for 11 months & 6,500 miles. The Adblue warning light has just come on which is sooner than I expected in mileage terms.  I can only assume than when the dealer did the PDI they didn't fill the adblue tank up.

Anyway it was very easier to refill & I'm not expecting to have to do it again for 12 months. Also the adblue isn't blue its clear tongue-out

lornalou1 replied on 05/02/2018 20:03

Posted on 05/02/2018 20:03

I believe adblue is corrosive to metal and you should take care when adding to any vehicle. always wipe any spills immediately.

The raw material, urea, even occurs naturally in our digestive system. However, we strongly dissuade you to ingest AdBlue or inhale AdBlue vapors, due to the risk of an allergic reaction. AdBlue is corrosive and can dissolve materials that are not listed as AdBlue proof in ISO 22241.
AdBlue - Halfords

Tinwheeler replied on 05/02/2018 20:21

Posted on 23/01/2017 07:39 by BlueVanMan

We are getting a new Euro 6 Citroen Relay based PVC in the Spring (same engine as Peugeot Boxer) which will indeed use AdBlue to make it Euro 6 compliant.

New Fiat Ducatos have different engines using different technology and don't need AdBlue but their mid sized engine is 150bhp as opposed to 160 in the Peugeot/Citroen.

The Adblue Tank holds 15 litres and the handbook gives no guidance about how long that will last but our local dealer suggests about 8000 miles. Guidance in your handbook will take you through how an interim low level warning followed by a "permanent" warning will be displayed as the level falls. According to the Citroen Relay handbook the vehicle is not actually immobilised until the AdBlue reaches zero (but I wont be experimenting to see if that is right) . The reason for immobilisation is that the vehicle no longer meets it Euro 6 emission criteria. It needs 3.8 litres of AdBlue to restart i.e. quite a bit to carry so another reason to avoid running out. Personally I think I will be topping up every 3000 miles or so.

Of course for some low mileage users it will will just be something done at annual vehicle service but again main service intervals at two years mean that even lower milage users could run out between services. You should observe the specific guidance about draining down in your vehicle maintenance handbook but some sources suggest a shelf life of 18 months. 

Posted on 05/02/2018 20:21

BVM, our Boxer needed refilling at 10k miles. Again, that assumes it was full beforehand.

Kartman60 replied on 07/02/2018 13:06

Posted on 07/02/2018 13:06

Our motorhome is on the 2017 Ford Transit 170 EuroVI cab, which as an aside we are more than delighted with, comfy, great drive and plenty of power. Adblue tank is 21 litres. Adblue warning light comes on at approx 1700 miles (plus a countdown of mileage till empty) and takes a full 10 litre top up.  We've done nearly 6,000 miles now and the warning light coming on at approx 1700 miles since last top up seems fairly consistant. Spoken to other Ford Transit 170 motorhomers and they have commented theirs are similar.

Rovingwoodies replied on 28/05/2021 16:16

Posted on 28/05/2021 16:16

I have just bought a new WildAx Pulsar with the latest 2.2 Euro diesel engine. Its only done 920 miles, 300 of which was a by road delivery, but in that time it's used in excess of 20 litres of Adblue which I've had to put in (not sure how much the manufacturers put in for delivery) and it has gone into recovery mode once with the AdBlue warning light coming on. 

I've taken it to the Citroen dealers and they've run their diagnostics and say there's no fault, but there has to be as the tank is only half full after I've just added another 6 litres. Has anyone had the same problem? To use it I now carry more AdBlue than water, my calculations show it's using 1 litre of AdBlue every 26 miles and I drive it very steadily.

All advice appreciated

Tinwheeler replied on 28/05/2021 17:04

Posted on 28/05/2021 16:16 by Rovingwoodies

I have just bought a new WildAx Pulsar with the latest 2.2 Euro diesel engine. Its only done 920 miles, 300 of which was a by road delivery, but in that time it's used in excess of 20 litres of Adblue which I've had to put in (not sure how much the manufacturers put in for delivery) and it has gone into recovery mode once with the AdBlue warning light coming on. 

I've taken it to the Citroen dealers and they've run their diagnostics and say there's no fault, but there has to be as the tank is only half full after I've just added another 6 litres. Has anyone had the same problem? To use it I now carry more AdBlue than water, my calculations show it's using 1 litre of AdBlue every 26 miles and I drive it very steadily.

All advice appreciated

Posted on 28/05/2021 17:04

Our Fiat was the same on collection from the dealer. In fact no diesel, no gas and very little AdBlue in the tanks. Shocking! Once the fault light was reset and the level topped up we had no more trouble other than an exhaust gas sensor but that's another matter.

I suggest you see how it goes on and if it still drinks AdBlue, waltz it back to Citroen under warranty. I know the dealer you bought the van from is ultimately responsible but your chances of getting a MH dealer to sort a base vehicle fault are very slim. You should make them aware though.

kenexton replied on 29/05/2021 05:36

Posted on 29/05/2021 05:36

Cheapest Adblu I have found was at our local Wilko,.During Lockdown I mistakenly ran the engine on tickover for an extended period to recharge the batteries,It upset the NOx sensor and brought up the "check adblu" on the dash.Best to drive the vehicle as the exhaust does not get hot enough on tickover= lesson learned.Peugeot Boxer 160 bhp model FYI.Avoid overfilling as it takes the surface sheen off plastics as it dries-another lesson learned.I only top up if setting off on an extended tour and finished up giving most of my spare to our son who is a high mileage driver.My first vehicle with this system so I was a bit apprehensive about it initially and fussed far too much but I have  got used to it now.Just need to be able to do some "proper" touring again post Covid etc.Another story entirely.....

 

BlueVanMan replied on 15/07/2021 09:55

Posted on 28/05/2021 17:04 by Tinwheeler

Our Fiat was the same on collection from the dealer. In fact no diesel, no gas and very little AdBlue in the tanks. Shocking! Once the fault light was reset and the level topped up we had no more trouble other than an exhaust gas sensor but that's another matter.

I suggest you see how it goes on and if it still drinks AdBlue, waltz it back to Citroen under warranty. I know the dealer you bought the van from is ultimately responsible but your chances of getting a MH dealer to sort a base vehicle fault are very slim. You should make them aware though.

Posted on 15/07/2021 09:55

If your calculation about Adblue consumption of 26 miles per litre is right then something is far wrong. Advise the selling dealer in writing that there is a problem and ask them to fix it. Do not go direct to Citroen. Certainly the Adblue consumption should be hundreds of miles per litre (I reckon about 500) but it depends on driving style and other factors. Keep on top of this as time and your legal rights slip away. Remember as a member of the club you are entitled to use the free legal helpline. 

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