A Frame

paulgill replied on 19/01/2017 12:30

Posted on 19/01/2017 12:30

Any one used an A Frame to tow a car behind a Motorhome in the last year or so. Can’t seem to find anything on any of the forums after 2015. All the installers that you talk to say that it is now legal in Europe and produce loads of facts and figures. Very confused and would love some  input from other Motorhome users.

Cheers.       Paul

 

Philnffc replied on 12/03/2017 20:35

Posted on 12/03/2017 20:35

Hi

just been too Benidorm for the weekend on the way home overtook a French Motorhome towing a Citreon C1 on a A-Frame, this goes against everything.

Phil

triky auto replied on 12/03/2017 22:33

Posted on 12/03/2017 20:35 by Philnffc

Hi

just been too Benidorm for the weekend on the way home overtook a French Motorhome towing a Citreon C1 on a A-Frame, this goes against everything.

Phil

Posted on 12/03/2017 22:33

undecided There is a production of an "A" frame that mirrors the one marketed  by "car a tow" of Poole. !!  !! One for them & one for us  ?.?? surprised 

Lutz replied on 12/03/2017 23:27

Posted on 12/03/2017 20:35 by Philnffc

Hi

just been too Benidorm for the weekend on the way home overtook a French Motorhome towing a Citreon C1 on a A-Frame, this goes against everything.

Phil

Posted on 12/03/2017 23:27

That doesn't mean that they are legal, though. There are lots of things offered on the market that are sold to the unsuspecting just to make a quick buck. If they made it to Spain towing an A-frame, they were lucky - especially in Spain! It seems that on the whole they are tolerated in France, but they are still not legal..

CraigPowell replied on 16/03/2017 20:33

Posted on 12/03/2017 09:05 by peedee

>Here is< my tip. It works well with the hitches that have a catch to keep them open until they drop on. For hitches that have no catch cut a piece of wood to size to jam open the hitch which you then remove when the hitch has dropped onto the ball.

peedee

Posted on 16/03/2017 20:33

Clever! Might give that a go instead of the jockey wheel as 1 less item to carry... any risk of bending/damaging the cross member?

Stewartwebr replied on 20/03/2017 04:21

Posted on 12/03/2017 23:27 by Lutz

That doesn't mean that they are legal, though. There are lots of things offered on the market that are sold to the unsuspecting just to make a quick buck. If they made it to Spain towing an A-frame, they were lucky - especially in Spain! It seems that on the whole they are tolerated in France, but they are still not legal..

Posted on 20/03/2017 04:21

and still not illegal, but lets not reopen that discussion which has been done to death. Just balancing the facts.

Lutz replied on 20/03/2017 05:26

Posted on 20/03/2017 04:21 by Stewartwebr

and still not illegal, but lets not reopen that discussion which has been done to death. Just balancing the facts.

Posted on 20/03/2017 05:26

I'm afraid so. So long as there are no provisions in any legislation for A-frames, towing with an A-frame will be considered on the Continent as being the same as towing a trailer and therefore the combination car + A-frame must fulfil all requirements that apply to trailers, which they undoubtedly don't and unlike in the UK there is no such thing as the law of precedent which could help out.

For want of any specific legislation the analogy A-frame/trailer isn't taken for granted in the UK, so that leaves A-frames in a grey area of being neither legal nor illegal. By law they simply don't exist.

CraigPowell replied on 20/03/2017 21:13

Posted on 17/03/2017 06:39 by peedee

None at all Craig, if there is it cannot be a very well built frame.

peedee

Posted on 20/03/2017 21:13

Ah sorry I meant the cross member on the car as it is supporting quite a bit of weight at a very shallow angle - if you get what I mean?

peedee replied on 21/03/2017 07:17

Posted on 21/03/2017 07:17

Well I never had a problem with a Car-A-Tow Frame fitted to two cars and that is one if not the heaviest frames on the market. Currently I have a Towbars  2 Tow frame and again I have not had a problem. The latter is a much lighter frame and it is supported at three points by the piece of rope. FYI the downward force of the Car-A-Tow frame on the tow ball was 10Kgms, I haven't measured that of the Towbar 2 Tow but being lighter it will be much less.

peedee

Philnffc replied on 24/03/2017 22:15

Posted on 24/03/2017 22:15

Hi

Only today joined a queue of traffic on the road between Torrevieja and Quesada and in front of us was a Motorhome from the UK towing a car  on a A=Frame. The queue was instigated by the local Guardia Civil Traffico road block and when the Motorhome got to them they just waved it through with no fine/uncoupling.

 

Phill

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