Water connection on serviced pitch

WilsoMellyEllyot replied on 19/10/2022 20:24

Posted on 19/10/2022 20:24

I’m sure people ask this question a lot by I’m new to motorhome stuff and I’m sure I’m missing something. At the moment I’m on a serviced pitch and when my onboard water tank is empty I get the hose out and wind it out and connect it up and refill the tank. Am I doing this wrong isn’t there a way to have the connection always refilling the tank? I see people with caravans and they have their water barrels connected all the time, I just thought there would be a solution for motorhomes as well. 

KjellNN replied on 22/11/2022 17:05

Posted on 22/11/2022 13:27 by EmilysDad

@KjellNN .... you pretty much describe the set up on ,y 2013 Coachman other than I don't have an access point to the top of the onboard tank as it lives under the floor.

I replaced the OE Truma transfer pump with a Whale because the Truma pump was c**p, the hose is too rigid & the plastic body came apart.

Posted on 22/11/2022 17:05

Our tank is also below floor level, but has a reasonably sized round access lid so you can get in to clean inside if necessary, not that I have ever needed to, and to access the probes that send a signal re the water level to the control panel above the door.

We only have the one pump, the bit that goes between the Aquaroll and the van is just a pipe with a grit filter on the end, I think they call it a "water uptake pipe".

It is a very simple system, really nothing to go wrong, which I like!

I have adapted an old 12v submersible pump we had left from our previous van to use for filling the toilet tank from a 10litre water carrier, as lifting the container that high when full is a bit painful these days.   Plugs into an external 12v socket and is operated by a push button switch, very handy.

EmilysDad replied on 22/11/2022 17:53

Posted on 22/11/2022 17:05 by KjellNN

Our tank is also below floor level, but has a reasonably sized round access lid so you can get in to clean inside if necessary, not that I have ever needed to, and to access the probes that send a signal re the water level to the control panel above the door.

We only have the one pump, the bit that goes between the Aquaroll and the van is just a pipe with a grit filter on the end, I think they call it a "water uptake pipe".

It is a very simple system, really nothing to go wrong, which I like!

I have adapted an old 12v submersible pump we had left from our previous van to use for filling the toilet tank from a 10litre water carrier, as lifting the container that high when full is a bit painful these days.   Plugs into an external 12v socket and is operated by a push button switch, very handy.

Posted on 22/11/2022 17:53

I have a Whale pump in the Aqua Roll that can be used to supply water directly to the taps or to fill the tank. I'm embarrassed to say that I've never looked around the onboard tank for an access cover or level probe .... I know there's a T handled plug/bung to drain the tank. The onboard tank has its own pump.

A previous owner made a similar pump to fill the toilet tank though it doesn't have a switch.

Navigateur replied on 22/11/2022 20:14

Posted on 22/11/2022 20:14

 Even on a service pitch the filling of the toilet rinse tank is a nuisance - unless one has an internal connection to the caravan water system. I use the five litre containers supplied with drinking water by supermarkets.  Good for around 50 refill cycles before the handle fails.

KjellNN replied on 22/11/2022 21:13

Posted on 22/11/2022 21:13

In our previous van (1998 model) the toilet drew the flush water from the Aquaroll, which was indeed a lot less hassle, took us ages to get used to having to fill a flush tank, and we still frequently forget to do it.

richardandros replied on 23/11/2022 06:51

Posted on 22/11/2022 09:16 by young thomas

...but isn't the advantage of having an on board tank that you don't need another one (or two) sat outside the van in the cold?

I can't see why water needs to pass through a large external tank just to pump it into an identical one inside the van.

why can't these clever systems just fill the internal tank...with some form of 'valve' if need be...though anything with 'Whale' on it needs to be avoided like the plague of other forums are to be believed.

Our 'valve' is me turning on the tap every 5-10 days when the guage moves into the red and filling the tank. No barrels, no valves, no pumps, no worries.

why carry a huge barrel (or even two) and associated pumping kit when the tank is part of the vehicle?🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 23/11/2022 06:51

yt - sorry but you're thinking 'motorhome' which has a big enough tank to 'survive'  for a few days on non fully - serviced pitches.  Caravans don't usually have the space to fit a tank of that size (well, not easily, anyway). The advantage of what I described is that it works equally well on either serviced or non-serviced pitches.  Just means you have to fill the aquaroll manually when it runs out. Yes - you could have a direct connection from the mains to the van if on a serviced pitch and do away with the aquaroll - but as Kj has pointed out, there is a danger that if something goes wrong, you could end up with a flooded van. Our float valve is over 8 years old - it's simple - and hasn't let us down in all that time - and even if it did, the worst thing that could happen would be that the aquaroll would overflow.

As for toilet flushing - because I had our useless Dometic changed for a Thetford, it wasn't possible to fit a toilet with a built in flush tank - so the water comes from the inboard tank - doing away with the need to fill the flush tank.  I was a bit bothered at first because it meant we couldn't put 'pink' additive in - but it's turned out to be a bonus because it's one less thing to think about having to do.

As for your views about Whale pumps - having used them for over 40 years on boats and having changed both our pumps in the van from Truma and Reich to Whale just after we got it, I have to say I don't share your view.

 

young thomas replied on 23/11/2022 09:44

Posted on 23/11/2022 09:44

The OP was about a motorhome...

my comment re Whale pumps/fillers/heaters etc come from much reading of other forums...witness plenty of heartbreak on the AS forum over the years.

we don't have a separate flush tank, just another thing to go wrong.

we have one tank, we drink the water, we use it for washing up and showering, it flushes the toilet....we fill it with a hose pipe...could it be more simple?

Burgundy replied on 25/11/2022 12:49

Posted on 23/11/2022 09:44 by young thomas

The OP was about a motorhome...

my comment re Whale pumps/fillers/heaters etc come from much reading of other forums...witness plenty of heartbreak on the AS forum over the years.

we don't have a separate flush tank, just another thing to go wrong.

we have one tank, we drink the water, we use it for washing up and showering, it flushes the toilet....we fill it with a hose pipe...could it be more simple?

Posted on 25/11/2022 12:49

The OP was about a motorhome” and was posted under the heading “Motorhomesl” , Caravans are under the heading above.

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