Satnav: avoid unclassified roads

DaveIam replied on 08/12/2021 12:10

Posted on 08/12/2021 12:10

Hi,

Does anyone know of a SatNav or SatNav app which has an option to avoid unclassified roads?

I know that some sat navs have an option to set the width, height and weight of your outfit but that doesn't prevent you being routed down a narrow unclassified single track lane which is a nightmare when towing a caravan.

I think the club should carry out tests on sat navs to check the routing and whether it has an option to avoid unclassified roads and if not petition the manufacturers to add this.

Navigateur replied on 09/12/2021 11:10

Posted on 09/12/2021 11:10

In the "old days" before a satnav, I would write a quick list of principle towns and road numbers. Following the gantry/ road signs would get me to within striking distance of my destination.

In the old days there were no gantries, and many of the road signs had been removed or repositioned to confuse any unwanted visitors from across the Channel.

DaveIam replied on 09/12/2021 15:49

Posted on 08/12/2021 15:33 by richardandros

I use “My Drive” with my Tomtom and have found it to be the only certain way of avoiding unsuitable routes for a caravan. It takes a bit of time and research using Google maps and Street View to select the most suitable route but once saved into My Drive and then downloaded to the satnav, you can be confident that there won’t be any nasty surprises.

Posted on 09/12/2021 15:49

Hi richardandros,

Thanks for that helpful information. I have a TomTom but I haven't tried that method of planning a route and loading it onto the satnav so will try it if I can't find a better way. 

DaveIam replied on 09/12/2021 15:59

Posted on 08/12/2021 16:12 by DavidKlyne

The problem with Sat Navs avoiding unclassified roads is that according to this Government website 60% of all roads in the UK fit into that category which is a lot of roads? The only foolproof method with avoiding roads you don't like is to review the route before setting off and make adjustments via the settings. Most sat navs allow you to do this. Having said that My old TomTom with the Camper Maps installed where pretty successful most of the time in avoid unsuitable roads although I do have to keep an eye on the built in TomTom in my motorhome which one would have thought we be set up for such a vehicle but that often seems not to be the case!!!

David

Posted on 09/12/2021 15:59

Hi David,

Thanks for your reply. I think I found the Government webpage you are referring to about road classification. Yes 60% of all roads being unclassified is a high number of roads and they probably date back to the days of horse and carts. I notice the website goes on to say:

"an unclassified road will generally have very low significance to traffic, and be of only very local importance."

so satnavs really shouldn't be routing us down these. 

DaveIam replied on 09/12/2021 16:11

Posted on 08/12/2021 16:33 by peedee

You can download a free  version of Mapfactor Navigator, I have just done this for my Android smart phone and had a very quick look at it and it does allow control over roads and you can set the type of vehicle you are using.

Suggest you have a look at it and try it. If it turns out you like it you can always move to the paid for version which uses TomTom maps rather than Open Street Maps not that there is anything wrong with the latter.

 

peedee

Posted on 09/12/2021 16:11

Hi peedee,

Thank you very much for both replies you posted. I have unsuccessfully tried an app called RoadLords but I hadn't heard of Mapfactor Navigator. I have downloaded it to my phone and tried out one of my test routes (Cirencester to Bourton-on-the-Water Club site at GL54 3BU). I had to put in the GPS co-ords of the site because it didn't recognize the postcode, but it successfully avoided the pitfall of a long single track lane which my TomTom took us down in May (luckily we only met 1 car but it was stressful). I will try some more test routes (where we also got caught out this year) and report back.

cyberyacht replied on 09/12/2021 16:25

Posted on 09/12/2021 11:10 by Navigateur

In the "old days" before a satnav, I would write a quick list of principle towns and road numbers. Following the gantry/ road signs would get me to within striking distance of my destination.

In the old days there were no gantries, and many of the road signs had been removed or repositioned to confuse any unwanted visitors from across the Channel.

Posted on 09/12/2021 16:25

My driving "old days" don't go back that far having been born post D-Day. tongue-out

Navigateur replied on 09/12/2021 16:58

Posted on 09/12/2021 16:58

 Long after D-Day, and even after we were well into the last quarter of the previous century, some local authorities had still not replaced missing finger-post signs.  Does not help that there are mischevious fools about who re-position signs!

viatorem replied on 09/12/2021 17:52

Posted on 09/12/2021 17:52

My original satnavs way back allowed  "main roads only" which was the best setting for towing as it avoided all the narrow roads until you were within the sites approach directions. More recent devices only allow fastest, economy etc much less helpful.

viatorem replied on 09/12/2021 17:55

Posted on 08/12/2021 15:33 by richardandros

I use “My Drive” with my Tomtom and have found it to be the only certain way of avoiding unsuitable routes for a caravan. It takes a bit of time and research using Google maps and Street View to select the most suitable route but once saved into My Drive and then downloaded to the satnav, you can be confident that there won’t be any nasty surprises.

Posted on 09/12/2021 17:55

I have used this as it allows for truck settings, the only downside is if you deviate from the uploaded route the device recalculates with its internal settings back to fastest or whatever.

peedee replied on 10/12/2021 07:33

Posted on 09/12/2021 16:11 by DaveIam

Hi peedee,

Thank you very much for both replies you posted. I have unsuccessfully tried an app called RoadLords but I hadn't heard of Mapfactor Navigator. I have downloaded it to my phone and tried out one of my test routes (Cirencester to Bourton-on-the-Water Club site at GL54 3BU). I had to put in the GPS co-ords of the site because it didn't recognize the postcode, but it successfully avoided the pitfall of a long single track lane which my TomTom took us down in May (luckily we only met 1 car but it was stressful). I will try some more test routes (where we also got caught out this year) and report back.

Posted on 10/12/2021 07:33

A good few years ago I used to use Mapfactor Truck, it had a few quirks, one in particular which used to annoy me was it would take routes through the middle of towns rather than use a bypass unles there was a truck ban. I was pointed in the direction of Co-Pilot Truck which I found much better so I dropped Mapfactor. Co-Pilot has since been taken over and is now marketed differently and although I still use it, it is not what it used to be. Map Factor may well now be a better option especially as I used to like the add on, Map Explorer as a planning tool. This used to come free with Navigator purchase.

I have also downloaded the free version to my tablet and will also trial it. You can change the settings to tell it to not use any of the UK road types and congestion charge areas so I am hoping that if I set it not to use any of the local roads or give the major roads a high preference, it will avoid them unless I included them as a waypoint. Unlike other sat navs  I think one might have to play around with these road settings, in combination with waypoints, to obtain the most suitable routing for the type of outfit you are driving

peedee

cyberyacht replied on 10/12/2021 08:16

Posted on 09/12/2021 17:52 by viatorem

My original satnavs way back allowed  "main roads only" which was the best setting for towing as it avoided all the narrow roads until you were within the sites approach directions. More recent devices only allow fastest, economy etc much less helpful.

Posted on 10/12/2021 08:16

On my very old TomTom with 20 year old maps, I always used "fastest" which prioritised major roads. On my latest "Camper" version, the algorithm seems to have been tweaked and, whilst it's yet to send me down a "goat track, I am less happy with the choices it now makes. I find I'm increasingly ignoring the directions in favour of following the signs on the gantries.

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