Plumbing advice needed.

RAH replied on 03/10/2022 09:00

Posted on 03/10/2022 09:00

Hi, we've been caravanners and CAMC members for about 10 years, but this is my first post here.

We have a 2002 Sterling Europa. It's generally in very good condition for it's age, but has an annoying issue with the plumbing that's slowly getting worse and I can't seem to resolve.

The problem we have is that water is somehow draining back from the bathroom hot tap, so that when it is turned on you get a coughing/spluttering of air escape before the water flows.  If the water hasn't been used for a few hours then we sometimes get a similar, but much less, effect from the kitchen hot tap.  It never affects the cold taps, so there  is obviously an issue somewhere in the hot water system.  The pump is a submersible in the outside water carrier so the system is only pressurised when taps are turned on.

Air is obviously leaking in to the system somewhere, but I cannot find where.  So far I have checked the pipework and joints for leaks.  I also swapped the internals of the bathroom taps for new ones (I couldn't find a full replacement tap anywhere so bought a similar Whale mixer and swapped the internals).  They turn on much smoother now, but the problem is completely unchanged.

I have noticed there is a T piece on the hot water outlet from the tank that appears to be a pressure release valve, with a clear pipe leading outside the van.  Is it possible that this is leaking?  Wouldn't that affect the kitchen tap to the same extent?

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should be looking at?

commeyras replied on 03/10/2022 09:41

Posted on 03/10/2022 09:41

RAH, if there is no sign of leakage in the system I think that the problem may be with the pressure valve not the link to the clear pipe which drains to the outside.  Your handbook should tell you how to adjust this (it is a white knob thing!);  if not, I am certain there are 'How to ...' videos on your good friend Google.  It is a simple 5 minute job.

RAH replied on 03/10/2022 11:08

Posted on 03/10/2022 10:59 by KjellNN

Is this a microswitch operated system?

Posted on 03/10/2022 11:08

yes.  There are microswitches on each tap, so no balancing vessel and pressure tap.

KjellNN replied on 03/10/2022 11:26

Posted on 03/10/2022 11:26

Do you keep your hot water heating on all the time when using the van?

Water being heated and then allowed to cool could draw in air.

However, I assume that this is a relatively recent problem, so something has changed from how it used to be?

RAH replied on 03/10/2022 11:32

Posted on 03/10/2022 11:32

We don't keep it on all the time, just putting it on for an hour or so when we want it heated, but this is an issue that's been slowly getting worse over the last year or so.

When i changed the tap internals at the weekend, the water heater hadn't been used at all.  I swapped the tap internals, then ran the water through and left it for a couple of hours. When I tried it again, without having heated the water at all, it had still drained back.

hitchglitch replied on 03/10/2022 11:39

Posted on 03/10/2022 11:39

We had that more than once on our caravan and it was caused by a bad seal in the submersible pump connection to the van. The remedy was to replace and lubricate (silicone grease) the O ring in the connector. 

RAH replied on 03/10/2022 12:00

Posted on 03/10/2022 12:00

Thanks hitchglitch.

I'll give that a try, but there's a non-return valve on the cold water side of the hot water tank, so I don't see how that could be the problem.

VILLAN replied on 03/10/2022 14:52

Posted on 03/10/2022 14:52

i have had the same problem with the  water heater in my elderly Abbey caravan. the heater took ages to fill from the aquaroll  but no leaks were discovered when the system was checked for leaks..

Eventually I discovered that the water was draining back into the aquaroll when the pump was switched off.

The cause was a faulty one way/non return valve fitted to the inlet side of the heater.

I purchased a replacement from a local caravan dealer . Not a difficult job to fit and never had a problem since.

 

RAH replied on 03/10/2022 18:40

Posted on 03/10/2022 18:40

Thanks VILLAN and Colin. I'll give that a try. It'll be a couple of weeks till I can test it but I'll report back afterwards.

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