My rights under Consumer Rights Act 2015

dexterlevi replied on 12/11/2017 09:37

Posted on 12/11/2017 09:37

I am trying to find out if I am able to reject a new caravan that recently went in for a warranty repair to fix an internal water leak. I have read other posts on other sites where if I have read it correctly, I may be in a position to reject. The circumstances are:

We took delivery of our new Elddis Avante 550 Caravan in late July 2017. Whilst away on a trip in late August we became aware of water running across the floor. I found the water to be coming from the water inlet pipe where it enters a t piece and then runs off to the kitchen sink.

The van went back to the dealer for the leak to be repaired along with a couple of other warranty repairs. Apparently they simply cut away the end of the pipe which was damaged and then reconnected to the t piece.

We collected the van approx 3 weeks ago and went away this weekend for a 2 night trip. This was the first trip since the repair to the leak was carried out.

When setting up the van we connected the water barrel to the pump and then opened the taps to prime the system. No water came out of the tap but I then became aware that the floor of the van was covered in water. By covered, I mean water everywhere. I quickly noticed that the water was leaking, well I should say spraying out like a sprinkler at the same point the dealer carried out the initial repair. So the extent of the leak was worse after the so called repair.

We quickly turned of water supply, pump and electrics as the water had sprayed over all the main electrics. We did our best to mop up what we could but to put it into context we have 2 large soaked bath towels and a large blanket/throw. This was the water we were able to soak up.

Water has run along at least half of the floor surface of the van including under front locker, both front seats and under fridge, cooker and across the other side of the van to the van wall and into the bathroom.

My reason for considering a reject is two fold. Firstly repair not completed first time and secondly is the potential damage to the van not only now but more likely in the future when the woodwork which has come into contact with water swells etc due to water damage. I am pretty certain that water will have gone under the floor lino so there is likely to be water in between the lino and wooden floor.To do this properly I think the dealer will need to to take a fair bit of the van furniture apart to capture and dry all the leakage. This will take time.
For anyone who is aware of the Elddis range they will know that the van is built with the SOLID construction system, so it should be water tight. That should stop water getting into the van. Worryingly I saw water running out from under the van which was clearly the internal leak finding its way out through the so called bonding and sealing? The SOLID construction should make it water tight so this is another potential flaw?

I am trying to read the Consumer Rights Act of 2015 myself but would welcome any help in interpreting this and what my rights might be. I don't necessarily want a refund. I would like a new van that has not been internally drenched in water after a first attempt repair by the dealer, which is likely to present further problems in the future.

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Boff replied on 12/11/2017 11:12

Posted on 12/11/2017 11:12

As comeyras, says I suggest that you get legal advice.  Obviously your confidence is shattered.

To be honest though, the actual fault , seems quite minor.  Often they are Speedfit type fittings which are very reliable if done correctly.  The fact that the dealer hasn’t seemed to test the repair, is appalling.  There tend to be lots of holes in a caravan floor, such as drop points, and holes for piping and wiring are you sure that the water wasn’t escaping through one of these points?

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ForestR replied on 12/11/2017 11:37

Posted on 12/11/2017 11:37

Bought Elddis Avante in 2009 and whilst checking it out at home before first trip out had exactly same water leak. It was visually apparent that a section of pipe was too short and would.never seal properly in a speedfit joint. Knowing how and having longer section of pipe and joint  available I fixed it myself  but still rang dealer to complain about poor PDI and for him to log leak in case of future issues with floor. Probably a mistake with hindsight as dealer went into liquidation a few months later and by the time we traded  in the caravan the body had been 90% resealed due to water ingress. However floor never a problem! Suggest you do others say and take legal advice.

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replied on 12/11/2017 12:31

Posted on 12/11/2017 12:31

For anyone who is aware of the Elddis range they will know that the van is built with the SOLID construction system, so it should be water tight. That should stop water getting into the van. Worryingly I saw water running out from under the van which was clearly the internal leak finding its way out through the so called bonding and sealing? The SOLID construction should make it water tight so this is another potential flaw?

The water will find its way out through various gas drop holes etc and run on the underside of the floor and along chassis etc. I doubt any serious damage

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 12/11/2017 12:36

Posted on 12/11/2017 12:36

Reject it, take legal advice to be sure of your rights. I’m convinced if you fix it yourself there will be a clause somewhere that may negate your warranty. I’d never have confidence that the fitters & dealer who has given you such appalling service would ever do a good job in the future.

hitchglitch replied on 12/11/2017 15:59

Posted on 12/11/2017 09:37 by dexterlevi

I am trying to find out if I am able to reject a new caravan that recently went in for a warranty repair to fix an internal water leak. I have read other posts on other sites where if I have read it correctly, I may be in a position to reject. The circumstances are:

We took delivery of our new Elddis Avante 550 Caravan in late July 2017. Whilst away on a trip in late August we became aware of water running across the floor. I found the water to be coming from the water inlet pipe where it enters a t piece and then runs off to the kitchen sink.

The van went back to the dealer for the leak to be repaired along with a couple of other warranty repairs. Apparently they simply cut away the end of the pipe which was damaged and then reconnected to the t piece.

We collected the van approx 3 weeks ago and went away this weekend for a 2 night trip. This was the first trip since the repair to the leak was carried out.

When setting up the van we connected the water barrel to the pump and then opened the taps to prime the system. No water came out of the tap but I then became aware that the floor of the van was covered in water. By covered, I mean water everywhere. I quickly noticed that the water was leaking, well I should say spraying out like a sprinkler at the same point the dealer carried out the initial repair. So the extent of the leak was worse after the so called repair.

We quickly turned of water supply, pump and electrics as the water had sprayed over all the main electrics. We did our best to mop up what we could but to put it into context we have 2 large soaked bath towels and a large blanket/throw. This was the water we were able to soak up.

Water has run along at least half of the floor surface of the van including under front locker, both front seats and under fridge, cooker and across the other side of the van to the van wall and into the bathroom.

My reason for considering a reject is two fold. Firstly repair not completed first time and secondly is the potential damage to the van not only now but more likely in the future when the woodwork which has come into contact with water swells etc due to water damage. I am pretty certain that water will have gone under the floor lino so there is likely to be water in between the lino and wooden floor.To do this properly I think the dealer will need to to take a fair bit of the van furniture apart to capture and dry all the leakage. This will take time.
For anyone who is aware of the Elddis range they will know that the van is built with the SOLID construction system, so it should be water tight. That should stop water getting into the van. Worryingly I saw water running out from under the van which was clearly the internal leak finding its way out through the so called bonding and sealing? The SOLID construction should make it water tight so this is another potential flaw?

I am trying to read the Consumer Rights Act of 2015 myself but would welcome any help in interpreting this and what my rights might be. I don't necessarily want a refund. I would like a new van that has not been internally drenched in water after a first attempt repair by the dealer, which is likely to present further problems in the future.

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Posted on 12/11/2017 15:59

I am not sure that the SOLID Construction is any better at sealing against water ingress. When I asked at the show they implied that if water did get in it didn’t matter because there was no wood to rot. 

flatcoat replied on 12/11/2017 22:32

Posted on 12/11/2017 22:32

I can understand the OP being hacked off but in itself the fault isn’t major, the consequences may be if furniture and fittings became saturated, but I suspect that is unlikely. I would guess the ‘lino’ is bonded to the floor and the leaking out will be through various service and vent holes. I agree for the dealer not to have checked the repair is simply unacceptable, there is no other polite word for it and I would be playing merry hell all the way to the top of the company (supplying dealer) until an acceptable apology and compensation was forthcoming. I would also name and shame the dealers. 

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