Mains Switching off when connected to car?

OrionCalls replied on 08/08/2017 16:10

Posted on 08/08/2017 16:10

When I connect or disconnect  my car's electrics to the caravan the mains switch in the caravan turns off. I had never noticed this happening in my old caravan but only since getting a new van with Alde heating. (This is because the clock setting on the Alde Control console resets every time the mains is switched off).

I now know that I can buy an Alde accessory that gives a battery back up that would stop the Alde clock resetting.

Can anyone tell me:- 

Is it normal for the caravan's mains to switch off when hooking up?

Is the Alde battery back up easy to fit?

 

Thanks

KjellNN replied on 09/08/2017 13:44

Posted on 09/08/2017 13:44

The control panel you pictured is surely a 12v item, as is the Alde controller?  Well it is in our caravan.

When you connect to the car, the habitation relay in the van does disconnect all the 12v in the van, but will allow the 12v element in the fridge to receive power directly from the car.  It all works automatically.

hitchglitch replied on 10/08/2017 08:13

Posted on 10/08/2017 08:13

I am rather confused as to what is actually being described, however, with an electronic panel it is common for everything to switch off when you disconnect the EHU. In our Motorhome once the EHU is disconnected and the engine started the panel is dead with only the fridge powered from the engine. When you stop and want to use the habitation battery or mains you have to press the "on" or nothing will work.

Obviously with a Motorhome you can do more with regard to starting the engine. For example, if the EHU is connected the engine won't start (Yes, I discovered that!), also the step is automatically retracted. Fairly foolproof although I expect that in due course I will find something that isn't!

SteveL replied on 10/08/2017 08:23

Posted on 09/08/2017 13:36 by OrionCalls

I asked the same question as I originally posted to the manufacturer of my caravan , Coachman (That's was the end of July).

 

I've just received their reply, which answers my question, but I do find it strange. Coachman's response is

I can confirm that when the caravan is connected to a towing vehicle the master switch will switch off, the only item that will receive power is the fridge."

Thanks for the responses received 

Posted on 10/08/2017 08:23

Mine does exactly the same on our Bailey Unicorn. I usually switch it off myself. Force of habit, because if we are putting the van in storage I don't want the battery drained by anything other than the alarm or tracker. However, when I have forgotten it isolates as you describe. However, it does not really control the 240 volts side, just operates some of the functions when on 240 volts, such as the Alde. However it will still operate them with the 240 volts off on gas. I don't think you have to have it on to get the plugs and microwave to work. Although must admit I always switch it on first, so have never tried.

replied on 10/08/2017 08:27

Posted on 10/08/2017 08:27

Obviously with a Motorhome you can do more with regard to starting the engine. For example, if the EHU is connected the engine won't start (Yes, I discovered that!), also the step is automatically retracted. Fairly foolproof although I expect that in due course I will find something that isn't!
 

Yep I have seen a MH start engine and then step out onto the step which is no longer there. surprised

huskydog replied on 10/08/2017 08:45

Posted on 10/08/2017 08:27 by

Obviously with a Motorhome you can do more with regard to starting the engine. For example, if the EHU is connected the engine won't start (Yes, I discovered that!), also the step is automatically retracted. Fairly foolproof although I expect that in due course I will find something that isn't!
 

Yep I have seen a MH start engine and then step out onto the step which is no longer there. surprised

Posted on 10/08/2017 08:45

Yes, I did that the first day I bought my M/H home yell, the thing is you only do it oncewink

hitchglitch replied on 10/08/2017 13:46

Posted on 10/08/2017 13:46

It's much easier to walk through the Motorhome and step down (if it's there!). My wife in particular finds it difficult to enter via the cab doors - a big step up and heavy doors.

I do worry about modern control panels. If it packs up there is no way of getting 12 or 240 volts.

TonyIshUK replied on 10/08/2017 17:29

Posted on 10/08/2017 17:29

Does that mean that the caravan battery is not charged when connected to the car and driving ?

rgds

SteveL replied on 10/08/2017 18:50

Posted on 10/08/2017 17:29 by TonyIshUK

Does that mean that the caravan battery is not charged when connected to the car and driving ?

rgds

Posted on 10/08/2017 18:50

As far as I am aware that is why it cuts out. It switches over from van to car and the the battery is charged and the fridge works on 12 volt. On our old van there was a switch labked van or car on the control unit.

EmilysDad replied on 10/08/2017 20:04

Posted on 10/08/2017 18:50 by SteveL

As far as I am aware that is why it cuts out. It switches over from van to car and the the battery is charged and the fridge works on 12 volt. On our old van there was a switch labked van or car on the control unit.

Posted on 10/08/2017 20:04

That switch was nothing to do with charging. It selected which battery was being used when you were sat in a lay-by.

Bongonaught replied on 12/08/2017 21:52

Posted on 08/08/2017 16:10 by OrionCalls

When I connect or disconnect  my car's electrics to the caravan the mains switch in the caravan turns off. I had never noticed this happening in my old caravan but only since getting a new van with Alde heating. (This is because the clock setting on the Alde Control console resets every time the mains is switched off).

I now know that I can buy an Alde accessory that gives a battery back up that would stop the Alde clock resetting.

Can anyone tell me:- 

Is it normal for the caravan's mains to switch off when hooking up?

Is the Alde battery back up easy to fit?

 

Thanks

Posted on 12/08/2017 21:52

Regards to the Alde clock back up..If you go to YouTube and follow The Trudgians, Dan Trudgian just done a VLOG on this very subject a few weeks back.  There is some soldering involved but it is relatively easy to do.

 

Can;t answer on the other problem sorry

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