Is my battery dead

AndyNC replied on 17/08/2022 13:51

Posted on 17/08/2022 13:51

Hi,

I have a Bailey Pursuit II 2019.

Got back from a week in Setthorns on the 22 July and because of misunderstanding the fridge was left on battery without the mains connected.

Yesterday I found this out and plugged the mains in to charge the battery. This morning it was at 13.16V just after charging.

Now I fear the battery is not good any more but if there was by chance a low battery disconnect in circuit then it may be Ok.

So does any one know if there would be one fitted. I've tried the usual Google searches and read the manual but no luck. 

I can check the battery by connecting a 12V car bulb across it and monitoring the voltage but it's not the whole answer.

I need motor movers to get it on my drive and don't want to get stuck.

Any advice?

 

Many thanks

Andy

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Tinwheeler replied on 17/08/2022 21:19

Posted on 17/08/2022 20:51 by

A couple of random thoughts / comments.

Is the fridge a compressor rather than absorption unit?  If so it could well have flattened the battery if left on 12v.

As far as I can establish the charger fitted to that model of van is a reasonable quality smart charger.  No danger of battery overcharging and a computer controlled charging program.  A reasonable test would be to give the battery not less than 24 hrs on charge then four hrs or more after switching off check the voltage which should be not less than 12.7v.  

Posted on 17/08/2022 21:19

A Dometic 3 way absorption fridge seems to have been the standard fitting.

hitchglitch replied on 17/08/2022 21:26

Posted on 17/08/2022 21:26

Bailey never used to fit smart chargers to their caravans but this may have changed. If the battery was fully discharged (although that is by no means clear) then you need 14.4 volts to fully recharge it which means the system needs to take the battery off line when on EHU because you don’t want 14.4 volts on the 12 volt system. 

Ideally with a fully discharged battery it is best to disconnect it and charge with a decent multi-stage charger like a CTek.

Tinwheeler replied on 17/08/2022 21:33

Posted on 17/08/2022 21:33

"If your battery went flat,the fridge was not the cause."

Rather - if your battery went flat,the fridge motor was not the cause. It could well have been the fridge control panel/interior light.

EmilysDad replied on 17/08/2022 22:18

Posted on 17/08/2022 21:33 by Tinwheeler

"If your battery went flat,the fridge was not the cause."

Rather - if your battery went flat,the fridge motor was not the cause. It could well have been the fridge control panel/interior light.

Posted on 17/08/2022 22:18

that's because absorption fridges don't have a motor πŸ‘ 

AndyNC replied on 17/08/2022 22:18

Posted on 17/08/2022 22:18

Many thanks for the responses.

The fridge is an absorption type and from what I glean from the responses the fridge will not drain the internal battery.

So this leads me to believe that when I found the fridge set to battery I panicked a little and got confused with the switches. It was getting dark and I did not have a torch at the time.

I left the battery on charge overnight (probably about 14hrs) by connecting the mains cable and measured the voltage shortly after disconnecting the mains. I did not measure it before charging so it may not have been flat. It could be that I did not have the main switch on so the voltage was zero (9v)

Just after charging the the voltage was 13.16V and about 2hrs it was 12.9V.

I'll measure it again in the morning and then try the motor movers. I guess it's OK but a fairly heavy motor mover test followed by measuring the battery voltage will give some indication.

 

Where would I find a decent wiring diagram.?

 

Thanks for your help

Andy

PS I'll try and get the screen name sorted.

 

Tinwheeler replied on 17/08/2022 22:28

Posted on 17/08/2022 22:18 by AndyNC

Many thanks for the responses.

The fridge is an absorption type and from what I glean from the responses the fridge will not drain the internal battery.

So this leads me to believe that when I found the fridge set to battery I panicked a little and got confused with the switches. It was getting dark and I did not have a torch at the time.

I left the battery on charge overnight (probably about 14hrs) by connecting the mains cable and measured the voltage shortly after disconnecting the mains. I did not measure it before charging so it may not have been flat. It could be that I did not have the main switch on so the voltage was zero (9v)

Just after charging the the voltage was 13.16V and about 2hrs it was 12.9V.

I'll measure it again in the morning and then try the motor movers. I guess it's OK but a fairly heavy motor mover test followed by measuring the battery voltage will give some indication.

 

Where would I find a decent wiring diagram.?

 

Thanks for your help

Andy

PS I'll try and get the screen name sorted.

 

Posted on 17/08/2022 22:28

The fridge cooling function would not have drained the battery but the control panel/ interior light could have.

You might have a wiring diagram in your handbook or even in your warranty booklet. Failing that, try the Bailey website.

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EmilysDad replied on 17/08/2022 23:20

Posted on 17/08/2022 22:24 by Tinwheeler

Layman's term for the sake of simplicity as I’m sure you’re aware πŸ™„

Posted on 17/08/2022 23:20

motor ... heat source 

They're both almost the same! πŸ€”

Rufs replied on 18/08/2022 08:50

Posted on 18/08/2022 08:50

well not a tech head, but on my 2008 coachman there is a volt meter built into the control panel, when the ehu is disconnected it reads 12v, you have to have the master switch in the on position, when i switch on the ehu it reads 12.5v, never seen it any different since buying the van not even when i put a new battery on when i replaced the mover, however, is this post a wind up ???

"So this leads me to believe that when I found the fridge set to battery I panicked a little and got confused with the switches. It was getting dark and I did not have a torch at the time"

why did he not switch on the 12v caravan lights ???

seems when he first checked the voltage he did not have the master switch "on" but it was registering 9v ???

I make a comparison with my OH car which we leave on the drive for 3 months with the battery connected all the alarms switched on, on return it starts first time, never has the battery been flat and it is 15 years old laughing

one other point , my mover will not work if the voltage is below 11.5v.

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