Flat battery

kalamitty55 replied on 31/12/2022 16:39

Posted on 31/12/2022 16:39

I keep our caravan on the drive and i did not leave it hooked up to the mains after we last used it,  as it has a solar panel on the roof, its a coachman vip460,  and i have been checking the van regulary, and the battery was good,  after this last lot of snow  i checked the van yesterday and the control panel was blank nothing worked, so put multi-meter on battery and it read 3.6v, plugged van into mains and left overnight, read voltage again and just the same, so i removed the fuse from solar panels, disconnected the battery and put in the garage and hooked up a charger its now reading 13. 5v  so will leave it charging and see if its holding a charge otherwise its a new battery,  but will leave it till weather warms up a bit as not using the van. good job its not stored miles away. 

mickysf replied on 31/12/2022 21:06

Posted on 31/12/2022 21:06

In my experience, if a battery has fallen as low as that it is well and truly goosed. I’d be careful leaving the likes on charge as they can overheat and even explode. Please take care.

kalamitty55 replied on 02/01/2023 15:57

Posted on 02/01/2023 15:57

Had it hooked up to a charger for 24 hours and have disconnected it and have been checking regularly and it’s holding 13.7v.  Will see it it’s stabilised 

 

eribaMotters replied on 02/01/2023 17:27

Posted on 02/01/2023 17:27

mickysf, 

I'm a bit confused by "I’d be careful leaving the likes on charge as they can overheat and even explode. Please take care." I'm on my fourth Van in 20 years. Three have had batteries fitted and each whilst garage stored has been left hooked up and on charge 24/7 when not being used. 

kalamitty55,

some intelligent chargers have the ability to bring heavily discharged and apparently knackered batteries back to life. If problems persist and your charger is up for replacement then look at CTEK.

 

Colin

young thomas replied on 02/01/2023 17:53

Posted on 02/01/2023 15:57 by kalamitty55

Had it hooked up to a charger for 24 hours and have disconnected it and have been checking regularly and it’s holding 13.7v.  Will see it it’s stabilised 

 

Posted on 02/01/2023 17:53

It shouldn't hold 13.7v for too long...remove the charger(!) and check in the morning.

you're looking for 12.7 or 12.8 volts as fully charged.

if you don't need it straight away, keep checking over the course of a week or more....

mickysf replied on 02/01/2023 19:04

Posted on 02/01/2023 17:27 by eribaMotters

mickysf, 

I'm a bit confused by "I’d be careful leaving the likes on charge as they can overheat and even explode. Please take care." I'm on my fourth Van in 20 years. Three have had batteries fitted and each whilst garage stored has been left hooked up and on charge 24/7 when not being used. 

kalamitty55,

some intelligent chargers have the ability to bring heavily discharged and apparently knackered batteries back to life. If problems persist and your charger is up for replacement then look at CTEK.

 

Colin

Posted on 02/01/2023 19:04

Just a word of concern, no more, I have personally witnessed three batteries over 40 years which have caused issues for their owners, one particularly dangerous, even with so called smart chargers being used. One exploded, one over heated and the third, mine, gassed into the habitation area setting off the CO alarm in the middle of the night. Hence the care I suggested. 

mickysf replied on 02/01/2023 19:32

Posted on 02/01/2023 19:04 by mickysf

Just a word of concern, no more, I have personally witnessed three batteries over 40 years which have caused issues for their owners, one particularly dangerous, even with so called smart chargers being used. One exploded, one over heated and the third, mine, gassed into the habitation area setting off the CO alarm in the middle of the night. Hence the care I suggested. 

Posted on 02/01/2023 19:32

Too late to edit but the gas from the faulty battery setting off the alarm was hydrogen (not carbon monoxide) and some hydrogen sulphide judging from the smell which was the giveaway as to the origins. The battery had shown no real issues prior to this, just a tad flat on taking out of storage at 12.5volts. Only on hooking up on site some 10 hrs later did the ‘alarm bells ring’ and the episode start. I do hope this contribution helps.

eribaMotters replied on 02/01/2023 19:43

Posted on 02/01/2023 19:43

 It sounds like this is not a one size fits all situation.

I know my van is fitted with a Schaudt CSV409A unit that incorporates a 3-stage charger. It also has a booster to regulate the charging voltage from the tow car. It feeds into a 95A/hr AGM battery

The unit has three protection circuits, namely overtemperature, overload and short circuit.

It is designed to be permanently left on and incorporates a trickle charge facility that automatically cuts out at 13.8v. 

 

Colin

mickysf replied on 02/01/2023 19:56

Posted on 02/01/2023 19:43 by eribaMotters

 It sounds like this is not a one size fits all situation.

I know my van is fitted with a Schaudt CSV409A unit that incorporates a 3-stage charger. It also has a booster to regulate the charging voltage from the tow car. It feeds into a 95A/hr AGM battery

The unit has three protection circuits, namely overtemperature, overload and short circuit.

It is designed to be permanently left on and incorporates a trickle charge facility that automatically cuts out at 13.8v. 

 

Colin

Posted on 02/01/2023 19:56

I think so Colin, my Sargent system also has those protections too. With the one which exploded it was a neighbouring caravaner on site, thankfully it blew during the day when they were out. The battery was in a box in the floor and it blew the lid off spreading acid around the van. Not a pretty sight and so lucky it didn’t happen during the night as their dog slept right over it on the floor. It later transpired that the battery had depleted in storage and that the dog had only just started sleeping in that exact position. I now wonder if heat attracted the dog to that exact spot.

kalamitty55 replied on 03/01/2023 13:32

Posted on 03/01/2023 13:32

thanks for all replys,  once i charged the  battery up,  i have left it on the worktop in garage,  it staying at 13.7v  i am in no rush to put it back in the caravan as we wont be using it if at all due to wife fracturing her back and recovery is slow so will see if she's fit enough by april otherwise i'll sell it for easter,  to get back on track,  i always hookup the van but i left it disconnected as the solar was working but with the snow on roof i think the alarm has drained the battery and when i went to check there was no power,  i will probaly get a replacement battery just seeing if i can bring this one back to life.

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