Dangerous roof light - partial solution

MargaretandDerek replied on 02/04/2019 11:29

Posted on 02/04/2019 11:29

I think the Roof Light manufactured by Dometic Seitz is a dangerous design. It can slam open unexpectedly, leaving the van exposed to rain and potentially breaking the light right off. It is fitted to many caravans makes, including my Bailey.

The problem is that when the light is latched into one of its two slightly open positions, gusts of wind can unlatch it and slam the roof open. Photo 1 shows the light fully open on my return from a day out, after it had been left in the slightly opened ventilation position. 

Here is a video showing the fault and how this happens: https://youtu.be/sxhl97c4YWc (Video opens in a new window)

Has anyone else had similar problems? (The older version of the roof light had a positive lock, as shown in Photo 2, so didn’t have this problem.)

When I suggested to Bailey that they were using a faulty design of roof light and ought to do something about it, they said it wasn’t their problem, it was Dometic’s. (However, I think that it would be the caravan manufacturer who would be liable should damage or costs be incurred because of an item they chose to use that ‘was not fit for purpose’ and they had been made aware of the problem.)

PARTIAL SOLUTION

Photos 3 & 4 show my solution. I have used thick nylon cord (threaded through the vent holes), to tie the opening bar in its open positions, so that gusts can’t unlatch or rip off the roof light. Photo 5 shows what I do with chord when the light is closed.

Not the most elegant solution, but better than having a holiday disaster! Has anyone come up with other solutions to this problem?

EmilysDad replied on 04/04/2019 18:10

Posted on 04/04/2019 18:10

I have a similar roof light in the end bathroom of my 2013 Coachman however there is a vertical bolt/latch on the slots for the more open position.

 

If it was any other forum I'd be able post a picture ..... 😐

lornalou1 replied on 04/04/2019 19:44

Posted on 04/04/2019 14:35 by Whittakerr

There is a spring clearly visible in the video at 1.15. It is attached to the operating arm and the back of the gray bracket on the roof light and as lornalou1 says it looks as if it will assist any wind in lifting the roof light.

Posted on 04/04/2019 19:44

Thanks, thought it was me going doolaly. tongue-out. he made the video and can't see it.

MargaretandDerek replied on 07/04/2019 13:13

Posted on 04/04/2019 14:35 by Whittakerr

There is a spring clearly visible in the video at 1.15. It is attached to the operating arm and the back of the gray bracket on the roof light and as lornalou1 says it looks as if it will assist any wind in lifting the roof light.

Posted on 07/04/2019 13:13

I think I see what you are referring to, but it is nothing to do with the problem of the roof light unlatching itself.

Look at the first photo, which is the video at 1.15 mins. If I understand you correctly, you are referring to the spring indicated by the red arrow. This spring partly balances the opening mechanism to make it easier for the user to open the light. It is not part of the latching mechanism.

The latching is done by a peg at the each end of the opening bar, which latches into a shaped groove, at the point indicated by the green arrow. The second photo shows the grooves that the end pins locate in (not photo is mirror image of video)

MargaretandDerek replied on 07/04/2019 13:24

Posted on 02/04/2019 16:32 by NevChap

Yes, I am surprised that the roof lights didn't have catches to secure them in the open position like they did on the original ones. However, I noticed that the latest models have gone back to having catches to stop them being blown right open when they are in a partial open position (or rather the ones I checked at our dealer's did have). 

Posted on 07/04/2019 13:24

You are quite right about the latest models. Here is a photo of the large roof light on a 2019 Bailey, with a lock on both opening positions. The fact that the design has been modified shows that they have had problems, even though it has been denied. (The caravan dealer had told me that the new models were not different, so they must be trying to cover up too.)

Importantly, this is not just a Bailey issue, as may makes of caravan and motorhome have fitted the faulty roof-light design, (as witnessed by the problem some of members have reported on this post.)

lornalou1 replied on 07/04/2019 15:03

Posted on 07/04/2019 15:03

the spring is assisting the bar. push the window up and the spring will pull the bar to the vertical slot so when you let go of the window the bar will drop down in to the vertical part of the slot just like if the wind got to it. try taking spring off and pushing the window again and bar will stay near the end. If the spring was attached to other end of said window bracket it will assist in holding the bar at the correct end. hope you get my explanation.

MargaretandDerek replied on 07/04/2019 17:00

Posted on 04/04/2019 17:39 by Pathfinder

 Photo of modification by '@ian-pedley' on the swift talk forum 

think he has a web site with the parts for sale

Posted on 07/04/2019 17:00

A neat solution. Note my other post showing how the manufacturers have at last fixed the fault in their latest product.

Pabst replied on 07/04/2019 17:23

Posted on 07/04/2019 17:23

I'd spotted this problem on the same rooflight fitted to our previous Elddis Crapvan 2014 model - I just squeezed 50mm of garden hose into each  main channel under the selected vent position - tight enough to prevent release but easy enough to reposition as required.

Crude but cheap (a bit like the caravan!)

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