Flexibility Please

chasncath replied on 26/09/2021 13:35

Posted on 26/09/2021 13:35

We're on a 5 week tour of NW England and SW Scotland and are currently at New England Bay, our fifth C&MC site. The now universal installation of non-return valves at waste water and CEP points is praiseworthy; however, when fitted with semi-rigid hoses they are a nightmare. If you try to flex the hose, they kink,shut off the flow, and water surges out of the sides of the valve! Here at New England, the taps are fitted with blue flexible hoses which work a treat- no flooding and soaked shoes.

Calling all wardens to throw away your yellow hoses and get flexible blue:-)

JVB66 replied on 26/09/2021 13:43

Posted on 26/09/2021 13:43

An even better solution we have noted on some sites is washing machine  water connecting pipescool

SteveL replied on 26/09/2021 17:10

Posted on 26/09/2021 17:10

Why can’t they just fit the type of non return taps we have in our garden at home. That doesn’t spray all over you if you turn it on more than a trickle.

chasncath replied on 26/09/2021 22:42

Posted on 26/09/2021 22:42

I had hoped that this topic would have generated much heated discussion, given that there is no national shortage of blue food grade flexible tubing. I'm grateful for your contributions. 

Meanwhile, it's chucking it down here in Galloway!

DavidKlyne replied on 26/09/2021 23:32

Posted on 26/09/2021 23:32

I think part of the problem on chemical disposal points is that often a cheap hose is use. I have come across a flexible hose which was good. I think often the problem is where there is only one hose for both cleaning the waste point and rinsing the cassette. 

David

mapman replied on 28/09/2021 12:29

Posted on 28/09/2021 12:29

I had an interesting conversation  about this with a warden recently. The non return valve is needed to stop contamination back to the tap and pipework. The problem in his view was that the tap plus valve was too low so that in order to wash out cassette people raised the yellow pipe kinking it and got soaked. His simple solution on a site he had been on previously was to erect a longer post and reposition the tap 50cm or so above the current position. Result: nobody needed to raise and  kink the pipe whatever height they had the cassette!  However he was told he could not make the same modification at his current site. 

Moderator Comment - Post edited to remove derogatory about Club staff

DSB replied on 28/09/2021 22:49

Posted on 28/09/2021 22:49

The best system I have seen was at a non-club site  that had a small rose on the end of a pipe (like a shower head), but with an integrated trigger which switched on the water when pressed.  It was just the right size for cleaning out the cassette, and was also good for washing down the CDP.

David

replied on 29/09/2021 07:16

Posted on 26/09/2021 23:32 by DavidKlyne

I think part of the problem on chemical disposal points is that often a cheap hose is use. I have come across a flexible hose which was good. I think often the problem is where there is only one hose for both cleaning the waste point and rinsing the cassette. 

David

Posted on 29/09/2021 07:16

I think the problem is poor design

SteveL replied on 29/09/2021 07:45

Posted on 29/09/2021 07:16 by

I think the problem is poor design

Posted on 29/09/2021 07:45

I don’t have any problem with the general design. That would be for a few we have come across over there. Like DK I think they need two taps. Those that do, like our current site, are very easy to use without soaking your feet.   

replied on 29/09/2021 08:02

Posted on 29/09/2021 07:45 by SteveL

I don’t have any problem with the general design. That would be for a few we have come across over there. Like DK I think they need two taps. Those that do, like our current site, are very easy to use without soaking your feet.   

Posted on 29/09/2021 08:02

If the taps were at chest level there would be no need to kink them to wash out cassette and disposal. An additional tap at lower level could also be provided for anybody in a wheelchair etc.

SteveL replied on 29/09/2021 08:34

Posted on 29/09/2021 08:02 by

If the taps were at chest level there would be no need to kink them to wash out cassette and disposal. An additional tap at lower level could also be provided for anybody in a wheelchair etc.

Posted on 29/09/2021 08:34

If you are going to place a lower level tap then I see no advantage to the higher one. On this site there is one positioned over the disposal with a length of hose that can be angled about to clean it, without kinking the hose. Plus a second with a short length just outside the disposal for filling the cassette to rinse. The cassette can be rested on the ground while filling with rinsing water. Both would be accessible to a wheel chair user.

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