CC Insurance - penalised for retiring

replied on 26/07/2016 20:47

Posted on 26/07/2016 20:47

I recieved a renewal quote from C C insurance and rang up to advise that we no longer needed cover for commuting to place of work as we had retired. Astounded to be told that instead of a decrease in premium we would have to pay 12.5% more for being retired.

Despite using C C insurance for some years we checked for other companies.

Needless to say we saved a lot of money for exactly the same cover, £103 pounds, to be honest..

Beware any outfit that takes advantage of older people!! The fact it is the Caravan Club makes it worse. Member for almost 30 years, would not have believed it till now.

Disgusted!

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 27/07/2016 16:00

Posted on 27/07/2016 16:00

My insurance went up when  I said I'd been on a speed awareness course. Surely having been made aware of the problems of speed my insurance should have reduced!

I wouldn't have told them

I never did MMLaughing

Wildwood replied on 27/07/2016 20:39

Posted on 27/07/2016 20:39

The club insurance is a brokerage and does not set the premiums, the insurers do but if the insurer is not competitive then they should move the business.

I am afraid though age will vount against you. Statistically once over 60 the risk in reases as older drivers have more accidents than those in the 30 to 50 age group. I did read recently that in fact they are now starting to overtake young drivers for claims costs so I am afraid higher premiums are going to happen as you get older but different companies might increase the premiums at different ages according to how their statistics stack up.

tigerfish replied on 28/07/2016 08:59

Posted on 28/07/2016 08:59

Wildwood,  

I have not heard before, any suggestion that drivers in the 60-80 bracket have more accidents than younger drivers.  Drivers older than 80 perhaps, but even then it is much more dependant on their general health and their level of situational awareness.

If indeed the CC Insurance is penalising older members, then I will most definately look elsewhere when my caravan Insurance next comes up for renewal.

TF

dwlgll20 replied on 28/07/2016 12:11

Posted on 28/07/2016 12:11

It's not the number of accidents which is the issue. The research indicates that elderly drivers are much more likely to be involved in what the insurance industry call 'catastrophic incidents', namely those with claims exceeding £50,000. 

tigerfish replied on 29/07/2016 00:23

Posted on 29/07/2016 00:23

Frankly I believe that it is rubbish!  The problem here is that very few "Consultants" actually reveal who is paying for their research!

I actually believe that by law all consultants should be forced to reveal who exactly paid for their research/ report at the time of its publication!

And I say that because for twelve years I was one of the so called specialists in my area of research. Indeed it was my insistance that I disagreed with the policy and approach of my paymasters that brought about my enforced 'retirement".

TF

MichaelT replied on 29/07/2016 07:32

Posted on 29/07/2016 07:32

All insurance is based on actuarial data wether that's car, life home etc. I can't say if you are retired or over a certain age you are more or less likely to have a prang however we all know as we get older we are not as sharp as we once were and perhaps we are more likely to be in an accident. This seems to be based on the fact the OP has retired so more likely to be using the van more which means there is more chance of being involved in an accident.  Unfortunately unlike motorhomes it's impossible to measure the actual use (mileage) so I guess insurer's load the premium to cover costs. Not saying it's right but for them if they insure you they have to weigh the risk versus cost.

dwlgll20 replied on 29/07/2016 09:03

Posted on 29/07/2016 09:03

tigerfish

You may find this recent report interesting. This is where the data comes from. I will totally agree that who funds research is critical to the validity and reliability of it.

SteveL replied on 29/07/2016 09:33

Posted on 29/07/2016 09:33

When I retired mine stayed the same, although they would give no discount for removing the use in conjunction with ones work add on, which is still there. So in effect it went up. However, now when it goes up, how do I differentiate between what they are adding on for my increasing age and what is just inflation and general increases due to market forces. I know I can compare prices, and I do to an extent. ( not the go compare type sites as they want to many details up front ) I assume the only way to be sure is generate some  quotes with fictitious birth dates. 

KjellNN replied on 31/07/2016 22:46

Posted on 31/07/2016 22:46

All insurance is based on actuarial data wether that's car, life home etc. I can't say if you are retired or over a certain age you are more or less likely to have a prang however we all know as we get older we are not as sharp as we once were and perhaps we are more likely to be in an accident. This seems to be based on the fact the OP has retired so more likely to be using the van more which means there is more chance of being involved in an accident.  Unfortunately unlike motorhomes it's impossible to measure the actual use (mileage) so I guess insurer's load the premium to cover costs. Not saying it's right but for them if they insure you they have to weigh the risk versus cost.

OP was talking about car insurance!

replied on 31/07/2016 23:01

Posted on 31/07/2016 23:01

All insurance is based on actuarial data wether that's car, life home etc. I can't say if you are retired or over a certain age you are more or less likely to have a prang however we all know as we get older we are not as sharp as we once were and perhaps we are more likely to be in an accident. This seems to be based on the fact the OP has retired so more likely to be using the van more which means there is more chance of being involved in an accident.  Unfortunately unlike motorhomes it's impossible to measure the actual use (mileage) so I guess insurer's load the premium to cover costs. Not saying it's right but for them if they insure you they have to weigh the risk versus cost.

OP was talking about car insurance!

My car insurance was limited to 6,000 miles a year on tow car. When I increased it to 9,000 miles the cost was nearly £25 cheaper .................. go figure?? 

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