Caravan Insurance recommendation

richardandros replied on 02/07/2020 09:38

Posted on 02/07/2020 06:41 by Extugger

Like you David, as soon as a non-U.K. built caravan is mentioned, a lot of insurance companies either refuse cover or charge excessively. This was my scenario with CAMC 'insurance' through Devitts. A couple of hours research and I saved £300 on an annual policy. I was disappointed having to take my business elsewhere, preferring to stay with the Club, but I 'will' not be over charged  😉

Posted on 02/07/2020 09:38

That's strange.  Our van is a Knaus - quite a few companies declined to quote since the value was over £30k.  A couple of others didn't know the difference between body length and shipping length and declined on the basis that at 8.1m, it was too long and another insisted on a tracker being fitted

On the other hand, I didn't have any problems at all with the CAMC Cover and I was able to pick and choose which security devices to fit and therefore which discounts to earn.  And as I said earlier, their quote was not quite the cheapest, but certainly up there with them.

richardandros replied on 02/07/2020 09:43

Posted on 02/07/2020 06:47 by allanandjean

Hi charlie, may be a bit late and you may have tried but when I had my Hobby the most competitive insurers were the NFU.

We now use Cover4Caravans which has been among the cheapest quote, I always compare, for a number of years now but that's with a Lunar.

Posted on 02/07/2020 09:43

I tried NFU because both of our cars are with them and I know they have an excellent reputation for settling claims.  When I enquired, however, they told me they could only insure a caravan if it was done in conjunction with House insurance - I think it was called 'Lifestyle' policy or something similar.  The combined quote was something like £1200 for the year and obviously totally out of the question.

Extugger replied on 02/07/2020 13:16

Posted on 01/07/2020 14:26 by Cornersteady

Think you have missed the point completely, the club does not use some broker, it is done all by the club, that's why it is called cover not insurance. One is dealing directly with the club. 

As I have said above But one pays one's money and takes one choice based on trust or whatever

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:16

Really???

From the Club website: "Our permitted business is advising and arranging general insurance contracts" No mention of underwriting the business and if you need to make a claim:

Send in your claim form

Email your completed claim form to: caravanclaims@devittinsurance.com

Alternatively, post it to: Caravan Cover Claims, Devitt Services Ltd, North House, St Edwards Way, Romford, Essex, RM1 3PP

Strange that 🤔

Extugger replied on 02/07/2020 13:26

Posted on 02/07/2020 09:38 by richardandros

That's strange.  Our van is a Knaus - quite a few companies declined to quote since the value was over £30k.  A couple of others didn't know the difference between body length and shipping length and declined on the basis that at 8.1m, it was too long and another insisted on a tracker being fitted

On the other hand, I didn't have any problems at all with the CAMC Cover and I was able to pick and choose which security devices to fit and therefore which discounts to earn.  And as I said earlier, their quote was not quite the cheapest, but certainly up there with them.

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:26

RandR. 

I thought it strange too, which is why I was disappointed not to be able 'to take advantage' of the Club's 5 star rated cover. I, too, came across many insurers who didn't know the differences in caravan lengths and shipping lengths (to be fair, some breakdown companies also struggle with that one!) but the final straw with one of said companies was when I was asked if I had 'other' security devices. When I replied "Yes, Smart Water" the reply came "What's that?!" I put the phone down.

replied on 02/07/2020 13:27

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:16 by Extugger

Really???

From the Club website: "Our permitted business is advising and arranging general insurance contracts" No mention of underwriting the business and if you need to make a claim:

Send in your claim form

Email your completed claim form to: caravanclaims@devittinsurance.com

Alternatively, post it to: Caravan Cover Claims, Devitt Services Ltd, North House, St Edwards Way, Romford, Essex, RM1 3PP

Strange that 🤔

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:27

When I googled caravan club and your quote it took me to the pages for 'Other Insurance' as opposed to Caravan Cover. For Caravan COver it states:

Caravan Cover is provided directly by the Caravan and Motorhome Club.

What's the difference between Caravan Cover from the Caravan and Motorhome Club and caravan insurance?
 

As we are a membership organisation, and caravan cover is not a legal requirement, we have been able to establish a product just for our members where all aspects of cover are dealt with by the Club.

For example, if you make a claim you would be dealing with the Club rather than a third party organisation.

We provide Caravan Cover on a discretionary basis which means our Board has full discretion over whether to agree to pay claims and the amounts to be paid. They may also agree to pay claims outside the terms and conditions of the cover if they feel the circumstances justify it. It is not a contract of insurance.

Extugger replied on 02/07/2020 13:31

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:25 by Tinwheeler

I think you'll find Devitts handle claims on behalf of the club. 

There's a long thread on the subject somewhere with an official explanation.

Corners is correct.

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:31

Who underwrites the policy?

Has anyone got an actual policy to clear this point up, because nowhere does it state Caravan Club Ltd do? 

It's irrelevant anyway, because their quote was too expensive 

Extugger replied on 02/07/2020 13:41

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:27 by

When I googled caravan club and your quote it took me to the pages for 'Other Insurance' as opposed to Caravan Cover. For Caravan COver it states:

Caravan Cover is provided directly by the Caravan and Motorhome Club.

What's the difference between Caravan Cover from the Caravan and Motorhome Club and caravan insurance?
 

As we are a membership organisation, and caravan cover is not a legal requirement, we have been able to establish a product just for our members where all aspects of cover are dealt with by the Club.

For example, if you make a claim you would be dealing with the Club rather than a third party organisation.

We provide Caravan Cover on a discretionary basis which means our Board has full discretion over whether to agree to pay claims and the amounts to be paid. They may also agree to pay claims outside the terms and conditions of the cover if they feel the circumstances justify it. It is not a contract of insurance.

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:41

Thank you Easy....and to Tinners for the link.....to your post.

Frankly I'm glad now I didn't go with CAMC as it's misleading. 

"For example, if you make a claim you would be dealing with the Club rather than a third party organisation"  Not true, unless Devitts are part of the Club!

Judging by the number of replies to your post Easy, it's a can of worms I don't want to open!

Happy travels everyone 😀👍

replied on 02/07/2020 14:21

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:41 by Extugger

Thank you Easy....and to Tinners for the link.....to your post.

Frankly I'm glad now I didn't go with CAMC as it's misleading. 

"For example, if you make a claim you would be dealing with the Club rather than a third party organisation"  Not true, unless Devitts are part of the Club!

Judging by the number of replies to your post Easy, it's a can of worms I don't want to open!

Happy travels everyone 😀👍

Posted on 02/07/2020 14:21

I was never truly satisfied with the club's responses Jon. When I reported that the Financial Ombudsman Service had reported to me that they could not act in regard to the CMC Cover the CMC spokesman said that he would speak with them and sort it out. I think that the club had been running their cover for around 15 months at that point. He came back later to say all was sorted and that the FOS would amend their information as a complaint could be made against the insurer that the club has. However in the info supplied by the club this insurance is contracted to the club in the event that the club is financially unable to meet claims due to a financial shortfall. Nowhere does it state otherwise. So I remain unconvinced that should the club be financially sound that such insurance would operate in the event of a claims dispute in the first instance particularly as I would be a third party. To me as clear as mud. As I felt that the club has worded responses carefully ..... but not always clearly and fully I shall simply give the go by 

Extugger replied on 02/07/2020 14:52

Posted on 02/07/2020 14:52

As you say Easy, all as clear as mud. Thanks for taking the trouble to respond at such length, with so much information. Having worked in the industry, I'm surprised at how many people are prepared to risk their obviously cherished and expensive leisure vehicles in such an ad hoc way! Furthermore, the OP asked about insurance and many posts on here are recommending something which is not insurance. "Oh the Caravan Club take care of everything" doesn't wash with me either, especially now following lockdown and the loss of a reported £20 odd million in revenue. Only needs an influx of claims (how many will there be on the next 3 days?) to put the Club under further financial pressure and then more price hikes will be likely. The bean counters don't like it up em Mr Mainwaring!

ps Corners, if you're reading this 'Actuary' is what you were searching for 👍😀

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