Caravan Club Non Insurance Policy

replied on 01/11/2019 22:56

Posted on 01/11/2019 22:56

A simple question. As the caravan club no longer offer caravan insurance as such what suggestions for a new insurer that does.

replied on 13/11/2019 12:13

Posted on 13/11/2019 11:31 by Cornersteady

The CAMC most certainly do, easy to find it is on this website. For others (and the club) use perhaps CUE and/or do a search. There is good advice on how to do this from compare type sites. For example Aviva and the club are with 1% of each other in payout claims.

I resent your persistent personal attacks and once again shown them to be false.

Also look it up is your wording when asked, ironic really

 

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Cornersteady replied on 13/11/2019 12:36

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In that case post a link to the "Cover" pay out data.  

Posted on 13/11/2019 12:36

It is (I've counted ) but one click away. DIY.

No more playing now - Use your running away line if you wish.

Cornersteady replied on 13/11/2019 12:43

Posted on 13/11/2019 12:43

It is interesting to note that the 2019 winner of the Insurance choice awards for caravans is the club cover, yet with insurance in the title you (one) might think that they wouldn't consider the club's cover and give the wining organisational to a 'proper' insurance? yet they have? Maybe they don't see it as much, if any, difference? I appreciate that these awards may mean little but why let the club's cover be even counted? Unless of course it is? Who knows, but an interesting observation?

Also of note the club won in 2018, and the club's insurance won in 2017.

Oh the the Motor home insurance was won by... 

Cornersteady replied on 13/11/2019 13:01

Posted on 13/11/2019 13:01

additionally the top three contenders for the award were:

The Caravan & Motorhome Club, Caravan Guard & The Insurance Emporium.

Now you could say that whoever voted may not have realised the 'difference' but surly:

a) The Insurance award people would have and if there was a 'difference' wouldn't have let the club be entered? 

b) If there was a 'difference' wouldn't the other two complain?

replied on 13/11/2019 13:22

Posted on 13/11/2019 10:11 by Cornersteady

Again who is this we? A few posters out of thousands

You are talking as if you are forced to take out this cover, are you?

And if as you suggest the club fails so many times why carry on with it or buy any new products? If a product fails me once, I'll give it one more go perhaps but after that I don't.

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”

Posted on 13/11/2019 13:22

If you discount those posters making reviews I am at a loss as to how many regular posters, I doubt thousands currently

replied on 13/11/2019 13:43

Posted on 13/11/2019 13:22 by

If you discount those posters making reviews I am at a loss as to how many regular posters, I doubt thousands currently

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Cornersteady replied on 13/11/2019 13:58

Posted on 13/11/2019 13:22 by

If you discount those posters making reviews I am at a loss as to how many regular posters, I doubt thousands currently

Posted on 13/11/2019 13:58

I meant those (4) posters out of the thousands that have bought the club's cover, I was replying to Surfer's post that said:

Every time the club has taken on something new they have failed miserably which is why we have concerns.

There are many examples of this and in some cases, but not all, after several months they have been able to rectify the issue where it is acceptable.

We do not want to be the guinea pigs! 

the we I took it as being the ones who use/buy a club product.

 

Wherenext replied on 13/11/2019 14:09

Posted on 13/11/2019 14:09

I do feel that there has been a lot of misinformation bandied about on this thread, particularly in regard to the Public Liability aspect of the cover.

This section sets out to cover the Insured party for their Legal Liability for any injury, loss or damage to Third Party persons or their property. The CAMC cover states this. If a court of law decides that you have been negligent then the CAMC will have to pay, regardless of their T&Cs otherwise they would be in breach of contract. They would also be the laughing stock of the Insurance Industry and clients would desert them in droves. You cannot escape your legal liability. This is why signs such as those found in Car Parks stating that the owner is not responsible for any damage etc. is rubbish. If they have been negligent in not fixing the condition of said car park and you trip over a loose paving slab then they cannot hide behind this disclaimer. They are negligent. In the caravan cover scenario if the club did for whatever reason decline a legitimate claim then they could be sued under the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977, which is specifically designed to deal with contracts of liability.

I state the above as someone who worked all of my life as an Underwriter, Salesperson, Commercial Broker and Claims Handler of Public Liability insurance, amongst other insurances. 

It should be noted that I don't actually insure my own caravan with the club and haven't for a number of years. This is not because I am worried about whether they are ethical or not but simply because they could not provide me with the cover I was seeking and to my knowledge still can't. It relates to cover whilst abroad so quite a few people can ignore the reason.

I also think that the club in trying to be clever have actually got their sales pitch wrong when they included the word May into the equation when talking about settling claims. I feel they were looking for an edge over their competitors here by intimating that should your claim fall outside the normal scope they could still end up paying the claim, ex-gratia as it were. However they have left it open to other interpretations.

I really cannot believe that their intention is to avoid paying legitimate claims but understand members concerns. That is up to each one to decide whether or not to place their cover with them but if push came to shove I would not be put off insuring with them if I could resolve the foreign cover aspect and certainly wouldn't worry whatsoever about the Public Liability aspect as any declinature, in my view, would only come about in exactly the same way as other insurers would handle it.

 

Tinwheeler replied on 13/11/2019 14:30

Posted on 13/11/2019 14:30

Great post, WN, and a pleasure to read the words of someone who knows what he's talking about.

replied on 13/11/2019 14:32

Posted on 13/11/2019 14:32

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