Will C&MC now be supportive of Motorhome Aires?

StuartO replied on 16/03/2017 15:53

Posted on 16/03/2017 15:53

The Caravan Club has hitherto never been in the least supportive of Motorhome Aires (overnight parking stops as distinct from campsites) seemingly because the Club was an operator of campsites and therefore didn't want any type of alternative overnight stops in UK for motorhomes competing with them.

But now the Club has become the Caravan and Motorhome Club, so will the position change?

No downside for campsites in supporting Motorhome Aires as I see it, we still need lots more overnight accommodation for both caravans and motorhomes in UK, simply to satisfy demand.  Motorhomes make widespread use of Aires (in France) and Stelplatz (in Germany) as well as most other European countries so why not in UK too?  They can be located in places which are too small or unsuitable for a proper campsite (no toilet block, just parking, water and a waste dump) yet still do a useful job. 

Developing Motorhome Aires in UK would add another string to the Club's bow and help to cope with increasing demand for overnight space for caravans and motorhomes, so why not?

Edited for typos

Wherenext replied on 17/03/2017 14:21

Posted on 17/03/2017 14:21

DEFRA did set aside over £100m to help local communities in growing their local economy so why hasn't the club used this initiative (about 18 months old) to discuss the benefits of tourers bringing money into these areas by setting up Aires or small sites, maybe having a maximum stop of 48 or 72 hours?

I assume this is the sort of thing that Sites dept would get involved in. Once again it would be nice to know.

I agree with Jayess though that we need new sites to replace those lost and those about to be lost. Remember your existing clientele and don't throw the baby out with the bathwater springs to mind.

replied on 17/03/2017 14:25

Posted on 17/03/2017 14:25

Does it make economic sense for the club to have a financial involvement? I personally doubt it.

dmiller555 replied on 22/03/2017 08:01

Posted on 22/03/2017 07:54 by peedee

There are already a few Aires in the UK, there is a list >here< one of the first was Cantebury. Looks like the Lake District is giving it some thought. See >this article<

peedee

Posted on 22/03/2017 08:01

Oh! Moneymaking in the Lake District how grubby and unusual, whatever next! 

peedee replied on 22/03/2017 08:05

Posted on 22/03/2017 08:05

It is sorely needed in an area like that. It is an area I currently think twice about touring because of the narrow roads and lack of parking.

peedee

peedee replied on 22/03/2017 08:14

Posted on 17/03/2017 14:25 by

Does it make economic sense for the club to have a financial involvement? I personally doubt it.

Posted on 22/03/2017 08:14

I think it would be foolish not to consider it, others with the land obviously think it is worthwhile.

peedee

replied on 22/03/2017 09:28

Posted on 22/03/2017 09:28

There is facility to overnight at the Roodee car park in Chester. The car park is obviously little used at night and has lorry and coach parking bays and of course the coach parking is little used as such overnight. Other car parks have similar arrangements. This is far away from providing a dedicated aires type facility as in it is making additional use of a slack period and presumably bringing trade to the city. 

Presumably pubs that do similar have the resultant benefit of increased trade. 

replied on 22/03/2017 09:32

Posted on 22/03/2017 08:05 by peedee

It is sorely needed in an area like that. It is an area I currently think twice about touring because of the narrow roads and lack of parking.

peedee

Posted on 22/03/2017 09:32

I had too smile PD when on the one hand you say that the provision of aires in the lake district is sorely needed and on the other hand state that you think twice about touring because of the narrow roads and lack of parking. 

Having a cheap place to stop over night with limited facilities will not make the roads wider nor the general parking any easier. If some wish to offer the facility however then why not.

birderbilly replied on 22/03/2017 09:40

Posted on 17/03/2017 09:37 by StuartO

Designing night halts for use by caravans as well as motorhomes adds to the challenge but I don't see why it couldn't be done.

 

Good to see so much positive support from members.- come on C&MC and committees, get your thinking caps on and show some initiative!  A pilot location to try this idea out would do no harm at all.

Posted on 22/03/2017 09:40

As a matter of interest why does designing an aire suitable for caravans add to the challenge ? I assume all aires have fresh and waste water provision which is all a caravan needs - just the same as a motorhome.

In respect of the club perhaps they would say the CL network serves this need.

DavidKlyne replied on 22/03/2017 09:43

Posted on 22/03/2017 08:01 by dmiller555

Oh! Moneymaking in the Lake District how grubby and unusual, whatever next! 

Posted on 22/03/2017 09:43

Unfortunately local papers seem to report things in a sensational way because they find reporting things factually boring. Because Councils are now so cash strapped I think it would be unreasonable to expect them to provide facilities and not to charge for them. In the Lake District that charge will be at a premium rate!!!

On the wider point of the petition I somehow doubt it will be successful because there always seems to be an expectation that "someone else" should pay to provide the facility. Far better to try and convince the likes of the two Clubs and Visit England to encourage local authorities to provide such facilities on the basis of what they are doing in the Lake District. If parking and water/waste/toilet disposal was also provided at say £10 a night it might be worthwhile for Councils to consider it as a local amenity. 

David

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