Why do we have a Club Chaplain?
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cyberyacht replied on 25/04/2016 20:00
AlanPort replied on 25/04/2016 21:34
Posted on 25/04/2016 21:34
It's a shame that no one from the Club Council seems willing to respond to the question of why the Club has a Chaplain. However, I understand that like the Club Chairman, Vice Chairmen and other members of the Club Council, all are voluntary/honary/unpaid positions, all being full Club members, most with many years of caravanning experience. The Director General, Marketing Director, Executive Secretary etc. on the other hand are salaried staff of the Club and often have limited if any previous experience of caravanning prior to taking up their current positions. They are appointed to run the business which the Club has now become.
In my opinion it should be beneficial to have members of the Club Council representing points of view related to caravanning from a wide range of backgrounds and it could be strongly argued that a Club Chaplain represents one such point of view. I'm sure that others on here will not agree but everyone is entitled to there opinion.
Alan
Rocky 2 buckets replied on 26/04/2016 07:01
Posted on 26/04/2016 07:01
Alan, everyone is entitled to an opinion that is a given, that opinion should always be respected-not necessarily agreed with though. The positions you have eloquently related make sense & are viewed as good governance having them. The general view is-how does the need for Chaplaincy fit in?, how does a Chaplain do their duty, what is the duty, where is their duty administered, is the Chaplain on call, do we(the members) have access to the Chaplain, can we contact the Chaplain to make use of that Chaplain?. Or is it just for the staff at H.O. There is nothing sinister in the questions, just curiosity. Transperancy is also part of good governance in 21st century companys make up.
JayEss replied on 26/04/2016 08:57
Posted on 26/04/2016 08:57
Thanks for your post Alan.
I agree with you that having folk from as many walks of life as possible on the club council can only be beneficial and those working in the community are particularly welcome from my point of view.
It is just the role that I'm trying to understand along the lines of Rocky's post above.
Kennine replied on 26/04/2016 09:09
Posted on 26/04/2016 09:09
Until I read this thread, I had no idea that the CC business actually had a Chaplain. Obviously senior management consider this position within the company important.
I would like if someone from head office could please explain exactly what function an Eclesiastical figure would perform.
Who can access this Chaplain's services and how does one make contact
K
AlanPort replied on 26/04/2016 09:11
Posted on 26/04/2016 09:11
As I said in my previous post, It's a shame that no one at HO appears able or willing to answer the question. I am not a member of the Club Council so do not intend to suggest a reason. My personal feeling however is that it does no harm. I do however know from personal experience that the last chaplain gave me and my family considerable support when we tragically lost our son several years ago. He had caravanned with our family for many years prior to this. I also know of many others who have received similar support. I am sure that the present chaplain is doing an equally good job in this respect. I have nothing more I can add on this thread.
Alan
JayEss replied on 26/04/2016 10:09
Posted on 26/04/2016 10:09
I'm sorry to hear that Alan and I'm glad you were able to get support.
I too am sorry that Club Council have not answered this query. It has certainly been 'seen' by a member of the Council.
Other members may be able to benefit from the support of the Club Chaplain but seeing as many long standing members weren't aware that there was one it's hard for me to see how they may access support when needed.
From my point of view I'm not saying whether there should or shouldn't be a person occupying that role in the club. I can see benefits. I can't see any disadvantages. However for purely personal reasons I would much prefer to be a member of an organisation that is entirely secular and would really appreciate some input from those in the know prior to my renewal date
Kennine replied on 26/04/2016 10:11
Posted on 26/04/2016 10:11
Further to my previous post, What I don't know is (and I am attempting to say this without introducing any religious discussion) In this era of multiculturalism, does the CC rotate the Eclesiastical dutes annually around the many faiths to which it's members belong. ?. This only needs a Yes or No answer.
Please fellow posters --do not introduce a discussion on the different faiths.
K
Rocky 2 buckets replied on 26/04/2016 10:53
JayEss replied on 26/04/2016 11:14
Posted on 26/04/2016 11:14
Well I don't know about anyone else but I'm finding this thread rather typical of the CC.
There are a few rather straightforward questions that members have asked for answers. The thread has been reported (by me) and it's been seen by a Club Council member. Somewhere at EG there has to be a piece of paper which outlines the role and remit of the Chaplain and how the services of the Chaplaincy can be accessed - surely?
We've gone to 8 pages (within the T&Cs as well, so thanks for that) and all we have to go on is Alan's understanding which was very helpful. I'll report the thread again but to be honest I think I've made my own personal decision
JayEss