Supreme court

groovy cleaner replied on 06/04/2017 10:32

Posted on 06/04/2017 10:32

see that the guy who refused to pay the fine he got for taking his daughter out of school in term time to take her to Florida has lost his case anyone else think this practice of hiking prices up at school holiday times should be stopped and CAMC should lead the way by starting the ball rolling before you all jump on me I've not got kids but as I'm single on minimum wage some of the prices for peak season are out of my budget !!

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DavidKlyne replied on 06/04/2017 16:13

Posted on 06/04/2017 10:43 by mickysf

Interesting, but what's to do? Should providers just average their prices across the year? What other 'fair' to all models, if any, could they apply I wonder?

Posted on 06/04/2017 16:13

I have just done a few calculations using the Broadway site as an example. Currently there are four prices bands ranging from £19.80 to £31.10 for a standard pitch and two adults. Using the price bands published on this website, a total of 272 nights. The calculation is based on one pitch being used for the entire 272 nights just to illustrate.

£31.10 + £3.90 for each child = 89 nights

£25.70 + £2.00 for each child = 105 night

£21.30 + £2.00 for each child = 32 nights

£19.80 + £2.00 for each child = 46 nights

If you averaged out the cost for a standard pitch with two adults it would work out at £25.95 a night. If you wanted to reduce the peak child cost to £2.00 all year the average price would be nearer £27.00 a night. The problem with doing that is that it gives no incentive for people to use the site in what is now the low season and seems only to give a marginal benefit for those using the site in the school holidays. You could have incentives like a midweek discount but given the Club would want to achieve the maximum income stream I worked on the assumption they would not want to take less money than they are now in total.

David

Steve Scott replied on 06/04/2017 16:47

Posted on 06/04/2017 13:15 by Cornersteady

Bit harsh there Steve on teachers,

that can have all the time off that they want (stress,sickness & strikes).

Are only teachers allowed to take time off for stress, sickness and strikes then? As your granddaughter's teacher has been off for more than a week, a doctor's note will be required, are you saying that this teacher should have to be in work?

However you have hit the nail on the head earlier in your post. When saving £1900 what's a £60 fine?

 

Posted on 06/04/2017 16:47

Hi Corners perhaps you are right it may be a bit harsh but all these years after i can still hear the sound of the cane cutting through the air on its way towards my open palm. Even then he missed and nearly broke my wrist i was only 12 still i don't think about it too muchyellyell. I should have been the one taking days off with stress. Still nowhere near has hard as my Dear Mother could hit meinnocent

Steve

Steve Scott replied on 06/04/2017 16:57

Posted on 06/04/2017 13:23 by Metheven

A 'pioneering' primary school in Hull is changing its holiday dates on a trial basis for one year, one of the said benefits would be to parents in that the holidays would be out of the peak prices.

Obviously if every school adopted this scheme the holiday firms would move with it, but why not adopt differing school holidays throughout the country! Just a thought.

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Posted on 06/04/2017 16:57

Dave i think something like this was suggested in Barnsley by the council but left it up to the individual school.Some liked it others didn't parents that had children at different schools were facing a big dilemma when each school wanted to close on different weeks.

Steve 

IanH replied on 06/04/2017 17:08

Posted on 06/04/2017 17:08

An excellent decision by the Supreme Court!

It was Mr Platt who took the case to court to appeal against a fine of £120. He now faces a legal bill of £10,000 and a penalty of up to £1,000 for the unpaid fine smile

The judge said that he showed a "blatant disregard for school rules". Quite right too!

In view of this ruling, parents can now be prosecuted if they take their kids out of school without permission.

IanH replied on 06/04/2017 17:11

Posted on 06/04/2017 17:11

Regarding holiday costs, i think that most providers would say that the 'peak' rates are the correct rates and the 'off peak' rates are discounted, to try to attract business.

The CAMC already struggle to compete in the off peak season, so cannot afford to subsidise school holiday times any more than they already do, by increasing off peak rates even more.

Cornersteady replied on 06/04/2017 17:40

Posted on 06/04/2017 16:47 by Steve Scott

Hi Corners perhaps you are right it may be a bit harsh but all these years after i can still hear the sound of the cane cutting through the air on its way towards my open palm. Even then he missed and nearly broke my wrist i was only 12 still i don't think about it too muchyellyell. I should have been the one taking days off with stress. Still nowhere near has hard as my Dear Mother could hit meinnocent

Steve

Posted on 06/04/2017 17:40

Ah well, that was totally wrong and I remember such 'teachers' as well, and such occurrences in childhood do last. I have always hated dentists ever since my first dentist said fillings shouldn't require any pain relief and like you I can still hear that drill whinnying away! I'm sure dentists are nice people but...

Cornersteady replied on 06/04/2017 17:49

Posted on 06/04/2017 17:49

The club does quite a bit for those with children, there are kids for a pound on many sites, thought it used to be for a penny. And caravaning is still one of the cheaper ways to holiday with children.

In my old (working) authority even a two week's unauthorised absence wouldn't have triggered a fine, and that is certainly the case for the council where I'm still a governor. We (teachers) could only imagine that the Isle of Wight did issue these fines as the residents there are mainly well off and probably paid it as a matter of course.

Interesting to note of course that this only applies to state schools. Put your child into a private school, and not only can they get longer holidays anyway (with usually better results) but no fines when you take them out for that skiing trip in late January.

JVB66 replied on 06/04/2017 17:58

Posted on 06/04/2017 17:49 by Cornersteady

The club does quite a bit for those with children, there are kids for a pound on many sites, thought it used to be for a penny. And caravaning is still one of the cheaper ways to holiday with children.

In my old (working) authority even a two week's unauthorised absence wouldn't have triggered a fine, and that is certainly the case for the council where I'm still a governor. We (teachers) could only imagine that the Isle of Wight did issue these fines as the residents there are mainly well off and probably paid it as a matter of course.

Interesting to note of course that this only applies to state schools. Put your child into a private school, and not only can they get longer holidays anyway (with usually better results) but no fines when you take them out for that skiing trip in late January.

Posted on 06/04/2017 17:58

Sorry Corners My brother lives  on the IOW and a lot of the population are far from well off, also there is a high level of unemployment 

Cornersteady replied on 06/04/2017 18:00

Posted on 06/04/2017 17:08 by IanH

An excellent decision by the Supreme Court!

It was Mr Platt who took the case to court to appeal against a fine of £120. He now faces a legal bill of £10,000 and a penalty of up to £1,000 for the unpaid fine smile

The judge said that he showed a "blatant disregard for school rules". Quite right too!

In view of this ruling, parents can now be prosecuted if they take their kids out of school without permission.

Posted on 06/04/2017 18:00

Ian I am curious why you think this is an excellent decision and your backing for following school rules? And would welcome your reasons behind your statement. Is this:

a) you believe in education and that every school day matters and that you now see the errors of your ways when you used break the school rules to play truant yourself as a child? You did say that on here didn't you? 

b) you want to have your holidays without any children about, you did post two such post in the past week or so - how there might be a half term in June and the shocking state of affairs in the Easter holiday, quote: how are we expected to be able to plan to avoid these periods if they keep chopping and changingsmile

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