Should the Club put it's foot down?

willbee replied on 13/10/2019 14:38

Posted on 13/10/2019 14:38

It's good that over the last few years the Club has been moving towards being more aware of the needs of our planet and the care of it's environment. Certainly sites like Poolsbrook with eco aware facilities are to be aplauded. The Club rightly should encourage, even expect, it's members to play their part in cutting energy consumption, and think beyond "just me".

Is it then time for the Club to introduce a TOTAL ban on awning heaters on thie sites? No doubt some members will see this as an infringement of their rights. That right being, in this case, to completely ignore the consequences of using energy in what is basically an outdoor space.

And the rest of us can just shut up, stop whinge-ing on, and pay for their electricity wastage in our site fees.

At least some CL owners are aware of this, and have moved to banning awning heaters on their sites.

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Posted on 13/10/2019 16:52 by moulesy

Any evidence for the statement     "the reality is not a great deal"  , DD?

(Please don't ask me to do my own research - I've no idea of the cost but you really ought to be prepared to back up that claim!) smile

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Posted on 13/10/2019 17:05 by Cornersteady

again what are the fees per pitch, (or is this like your site complaint you were going to tell us all about)

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Cornersteady replied on 13/10/2019 17:15

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CPES (Caravan Parks Electrical Services) already do most of the installations and testing of CC Ltd site services.  Each Bollard should be checked each year.  Installing a plug-in meter takes seconds.  These can be monitored by the office computer, just a bit of software needed.  Go on to: https://cpes.co.uk/products/metering/ download the brochure and have a look at smart metering.  The cost would be the subject of negotiation between CC Ltd and CPES and any negotiator worth employing should be able to get the cost low simply because of the size of the contract.      

Posted on 13/10/2019 17:15

Seconds, now I know you are not seroius.

Takes seconds per EHU , yes at 200 sites and 50 pitches (a serious underestimate) is 10,000 pitches or even if a bollard that supplies four pitches, you still need four separate plug in meters?

Now a few seconds, unwrapping the box, taking it out plugging in will take (lets be generous) 30 seconds? That is 100000 seconds, or a total of 83 hours, what is the hourly rate for fitting one of these. Then who is going to read all those meters

BUT where is the money going to come from. Low or not is money that cannot be recouped, it is all wasted.

Anyway I look forward to your own estimate. (also that site you complained about)

 

  

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Posted on 13/10/2019 17:06 by

CPES (Caravan Parks Electrical Services) already do most of the installations and testing of CC Ltd site services.  Each Bollard should be checked each year.  Installing a plug-in meter takes seconds.  These can be monitored by the office computer, just a bit of software needed.  Go on to: https://cpes.co.uk/products/metering/ download the brochure and have a look at smart metering.  The cost would be the subject of negotiation between CC Ltd and CPES and any negotiator worth employing should be able to get the cost low simply because of the size of the contract.      

Posted on 13/10/2019 17:16

I suspect that the majority of members are happy with the present way of charging for electricity and with its simplicity. 

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I suspect that the majority of members are happy with the present way of charging for electricity and with its simplicity. 

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Posted on 13/10/2019 17:15 by Cornersteady

Seconds, now I know you are not seroius.

Takes seconds per EHU , yes at 200 sites and 50 pitches (a serious underestimate) is 10,000 pitches or even if a bollard that supplies four pitches, you still need four separate plug in meters?

Now a few seconds, unwrapping the box, taking it out plugging in will take (lets be generous) 30 seconds? That is 100000 seconds, or a total of 83 hours, what is the hourly rate for fitting one of these. Then who is going to read all those meters

BUT where is the money going to come from. Low or not is money that cannot be recouped, it is all wasted.

Anyway I look forward to your own estimate. (also that site you complained about)

 

  

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Where I have encountered it the reading is available in the office and if there is anything to pay its added to the bill as one checks out.

Whoops just realized the CC operates payment in advance so that would complicate things.surprised

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neveramsure replied on 13/10/2019 17:27

Posted on 13/10/2019 16:52 by

Technically it is quite a simple job and the costs are not massive per pitch.  I like the idea as it means that it is fair.  Use a lot, pay a lot.  Use little, pay little.  

Posted on 13/10/2019 17:27

That may be great for members who use solar panels but how many of us want to be thinking of how much money we are spending on electric while enjoying our holiday?

The only heaters I have seen in awnings were used by seasonal pitch owners on private sites, where the awning looks more like a living room.smile

The club has enough rules to enforce already; banning heaters from awnings would certainly keep the curtain-switchers busy though.wink    

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