Pay as you book

gygafo replied on 30/07/2016 21:13

Posted on 30/07/2016 21:13

This is so frustrating! Why is it that some sites are fully booked all year?

I am a new member to the CC but have friends who have been with the club for years who say that members block book and then cancel within 72 hours if the weather isn't to their liking. I know where I want to go and regardless of the weather I don't mind paying up-front for the privalage unless there is a complication. If this is true, it seems a bit unfair. After all, I wouldn't book a flight and cancel if it was raining in another country and not expect some sort of penalty!?

Manchester Mike replied on 31/07/2016 22:16

Posted on 31/07/2016 22:16

Yep I want to retain the option to cancell without penalty. That's why I'm a member. Such a great system for people who have work commitments. I'm a foster carer and often can't predict when I will have a placement. I need to book in advance to enjoy a welcomed break. If I am called upon at short notice to take in a child, I often need to cancell. the system works for me. 

JayEss replied on 31/07/2016 22:21

Posted on 31/07/2016 22:21

I don't mind too much about deposits in principle but my recent experience with the C&CC made me glad the CC system is what it is. I booked and paid my deposit then needed to add a couple of nights. Firstly you can't amend a booking online so it took a phone call. Secondly they couldn't add an additional payment to the deposit - it had to be refunded then taken again. Enormous amount of unnecessary faffing and time wasting. 

mickysf replied on 31/07/2016 22:21

Posted on 31/07/2016 22:21

Yep I want to retain the option to cancell without penalty. That's why I'm a member. Such a great system for people who have work commitments. I'm a foster carer and often can't predict when I will have a placement. I need to book in advance to enjoy a welcomed break. If I am called upon at short notice to take in a child, I often need to cancell. the system works for me. 

Respect Mike, never thought of such, there are even legitimate cancellations in certain circumstances! As I said before, why let the very few bad apples dictate how 'our' club operates!Happy

SteveL replied on 31/07/2016 22:21

Posted on 31/07/2016 22:21

If we are talking about deposits, that may well stop block booking, if it even exist to any great degree, which I think unlikely. However, it would not stop cancelations for legitimate reasons, or even bad weather. Those with legitimate reasons, such as illness or car/van problems, would have to cancel whatever the deposit. Those who would cancel for bad weather, would still cancel unless the deposit was large. For instance, if you were of a mind to cancel for a wet weekend, £10 / £20 probably would not put you off, if going would cost you £60 / £70.

replied on 31/07/2016 22:57

Posted on 31/07/2016 22:57

If we are talking about deposits, that may well stop block booking, if it even exist to any great degree, which I think unlikely. However, it would not stop cancelations for legitimate reasons, or even bad weather. Those with legitimate reasons, such as illness or car/van problems, would have to cancel whatever the deposit. Those who would cancel for bad weather, would still cancel unless the deposit was large. For instance, if you were of a mind to cancel for a wet weekend, £10 / £20 probably would not put you off, if going would cost you £60 / £70.

Agree Steve

IanH replied on 01/08/2016 09:15

Posted on 01/08/2016 09:15

If we are talking about deposits, that may well stop block booking, if it even exist to any great degree, which I think unlikely. However, it would not stop cancelations for legitimate reasons, or even bad weather. Those with legitimate reasons, such as illness or car/van problems, would have to cancel whatever the deposit. Those who would cancel for bad weather, would still cancel unless the deposit was large. For instance, if you were of a mind to cancel for a wet weekend, £10 / £20 probably would not put you off, if going would cost you £60 / £70.

I think the point is that people who have a tendency to cancel if the weather's bad etc. wouldn't book in the first place if they had to pay a deposit.

 

replied on 01/08/2016 14:33

Posted on 01/08/2016 14:33

If we are talking about deposits, that may well stop block booking, if it even exist to any great degree, which I think unlikely. However, it would not stop cancelations for legitimate reasons, or even bad weather. Those with legitimate reasons, such as illness or car/van problems, would have to cancel whatever the deposit. Those who would cancel for bad weather, would still cancel unless the deposit was large. For instance, if you were of a mind to cancel for a wet weekend, £10 / £20 probably would not put you off, if going would cost you £60 / £70.

I think the point is that people who have a tendency to cancel if the weather's bad etc. wouldn't book in the first place if they had to pay a deposit.

 

I can't follow any logic in this Ian. 

moulesy replied on 01/08/2016 14:48

Posted on 01/08/2016 14:48

Me neither! If block booking exists ( and I'm not convinced it's as big a problem as some say, despite the "admissions" by others on here), unless the deposit is made prohibitively large it's unlikely to be a deterrent. So, either the club sticks with what they say works or they go down the commercial road of a sizeable, non- returnable deposit and possibly full payment in advance. Would that be a better method? Not in my opinion.

replied on 01/08/2016 14:59

Posted on 01/08/2016 14:59

A few years ago I was initially thinking that deposits were a good idea. And then I thought again. I think that folk book a pitch with the intention of using it. As I go away for weeks rather than days and follow a tour route I am unlikely to cancel due to rain. If I were weekending and it was forecast torrential rain nd I decided to cancel the loss of a £10 deposit would not trouble me at all as I would have probably saved £25 in fuel and £40 in fees by not going. £20 would be the same choice for me.

young thomas replied on 01/08/2016 15:06

Posted on 01/08/2016 15:06

it would be very easy for the club to produce a report (for internal use of course...) of the amount of cancellation by date.

another would be the cancellations by member per year...

repeated cancellations, yet within the 'allowed' period might spark a check as to any other bookings made at other sites for the same dates...similarly, for those made at the same site but for multiple dates.....

either might reveal 'unconventional' booking habits, where a member is looking to 'cover multiple bases'...

possibly, the club already have these stats and, for all we know, some of us might have already been spoken to.....Wink

...but, as for Ian's (legitimate) request for these sort of stats.... no chance, it would be dynamite!

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