Concessions for 60 +
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IanH replied on 19/01/2017 20:07
brue replied on 19/01/2017 20:23
Posted on 16/01/2017 20:30 by IanHI think what the C&CC did was to increase the 'age concession' age from over 55 to over 60 a couple of year ago.
It diesn't apply in peak season.
It's a good scheme though and it would br good if the CC did the same scheme.
nelliethehooker replied on 19/01/2017 21:06
Posted on 17/01/2017 00:10 by DavidKlyneUnfortunately you can't have your cake and eat it!!! For it to work the Club would have to be convinced that it would help to fill underused capacity on campsites rather than provide an added subsidy. We tend to motorhome all year and with the odd exception CC sites seem to be pretty well used. There is also the issue of given one part of the membership an advantage over another as would happen if you base price discounts on an age basis. At least the mid week discount is available to all. I expect the C&CC work on a different model. Because they ask for a deposit and also accept more tent campers they need to encourage people to commit to booking pitches which the age concession does. My experience of C&CC sites is that I can generally leave booking a site right to the last minute whereas CC sites I have to book some way ahead.
David
Posted on 19/01/2017 21:06
Don't know what sites you use David, but the ones we visit out with main season are certainly not well used at all. For example we were on Southport early in December and there were only about 25 vans on the site during the week, on a site that has 171 pitches. This is pretty typical from what we seen. The sites may well have many more during the weekend but certainly not midweek, and a decent discount at this time could well encourage more visitors.
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moulesy replied on 19/01/2017 21:14
Posted on 19/01/2017 20:07 by IanHSo parents expect other members to pay for their children's holidays?
Posted on 19/01/2017 21:14
Can't have it both ways Ian. Can't argue for the club to follow the leisure industry standard model (deposits, cancellation penalties etc) and at the same time argue against reduced prices for children which is of course a fundamental of the standard model. Smiley smiley!
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Wildwood replied on 19/01/2017 23:18
Posted on 19/01/2017 20:07 by IanHSo parents expect other members to pay for their children's holidays?
Posted on 19/01/2017 23:18
The charge per head is far more than the actual cost as the pitch cost is the real cost to the club. Families with children are paying well over the odds on club sites so a recognition of this by a discount looks fair to me. In addition we need to keep younger families using sites to prevent the club dying off with us older members.
As itr stands parents are being overcharged for their pitch and subsidising the rest of us
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replied on 20/01/2017 07:39
Posted on 19/01/2017 21:06 by nelliethehookerDon't know what sites you use David, but the ones we visit out with main season are certainly not well used at all. For example we were on Southport early in December and there were only about 25 vans on the site during the week, on a site that has 171 pitches. This is pretty typical from what we seen. The sites may well have many more during the weekend but certainly not midweek, and a decent discount at this time could well encourage more visitors.
Posted on 20/01/2017 07:39
I cannot see being able to encourage more uptake in December. There are four main situations for many/most couples as they travel through life.
1. Couple with no children working. Maybe 6 weeks holiday and trying to build a home. Might tempt them out Christmas or New Year for 4 or 5 nights or even a week. The rest of their available time they want better weather and probably tour April until end of September at most otherwise and likely avoid school holidays in the main.
2. Couple with children. Similar to above except using School holiday periods and after October half term not likely to use the 'van much.
3. Working Couple with grown up children fall into a similar situation as group 1.
4. Retired couples. Most don't tour/holiday more than 100 nights I suspect and choose to use mainly the better weather.
I personally do not caravan October, November, January, February, March. We are away for 120+ nights a year. We have 2 weeks at Christmas to break the winter a little but the time that we are not touring is a time for me to meet friends and family and to fit in medical appointments. I could easily afford to have more nights away but choose not to. If sights were £12 a night in October, November, January, February, March I would not take advantage.
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SteveL replied on 20/01/2017 08:26
Posted on 20/01/2017 08:26
Very similar with us ET. We use the van a few times during the winter, just so it is not sat in storage for many months. We finish our main touring at the end of September / beginning of October. Have a week away in November, a few days in January, after the van service and a week at the beginning of March. Touring starts again late April / May. Cheaper prices would not entice us out more with a caravan. However, if we switch to a motorvan, we would probably take several short breaks when the weather looked nice. Personally I don't think the prices are bad at the moment, when you consider what electricity we are consuming.
Cornersteady replied on 20/01/2017 10:15
Posted on 19/01/2017 23:18 by WildwoodThe charge per head is far more than the actual cost as the pitch cost is the real cost to the club. Families with children are paying well over the odds on club sites so a recognition of this by a discount looks fair to me. In addition we need to keep younger families using sites to prevent the club dying off with us older members.
As itr stands parents are being overcharged for their pitch and subsidising the rest of us
Posted on 20/01/2017 10:15
very true. That's why all leisure organisations offer reduced prices for children to get the full paying adults to come to them. They know that lose the children and they lose the adults. Even if it is possible to get the same number of adults which is very doubtful you still lose of the fees for children. They (and the club) are not doing it out of compassion for families.
Imagine a site with 30 children on it. That’s either £30 or £90 (depending upon the kids offer which is not on all sites), you could wrongly think that is easily made by another one or two extra couples or three four couples coming. Firstly it’s quite an assumption that by being child free extra people would come to the site, you might get one? Secondly you actually need far more, as parents don’t come without their children you are losing all those adults. That could be 30 mums & dads, or taking an average of 2 children per van, that’s 15 couples. So in reality you have to attract 15 to 30 extra child free couples added to the ones needed to make up for the shortfall in children’s fees. Would that really happen? Is the club going to take a gamble?
I wonder if posters complain in Toby restaurants that they are paying for other families children, or on package holidays? or at the football match?
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Randomcamper replied on 20/01/2017 10:17
Wildwood replied on 20/01/2017 14:20
Posted on 20/01/2017 14:20
I tend to agree also. There are hose who will go away in Winter whatever and those of us who will only do so if the weather is favourable. Our last booking though was for October rather than September ahich we thought was a reasonable risk. After that it is when we have nothing else on and the weather suits us.
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