Club site energy cost hike.

replied on 20/02/2019 12:34

Posted on 20/02/2019 12:34

AS an Engineer, Can I suggest, Given the investments that the club make on the sites and the expected hike in fuel cost, it is obvious now that the club should look at renewable energy for the future, Solar as well as ground. Given the areas and more so if there is a running stream or river that is close by and getting hydro energy. The initial cost would be high, but the returns would be beneficial on the hot water used and on eco LED lighting. The investment would then be securing a stable operational cost and with the benefits of lowering  the carbon footprint. I believe there are many grants available for such businesses and I know the likes of Worcester Bosh or Vaillant or Vieessman  may be interested in sponsorship. Let alone the TV media benefits if we were to get on the likes of Country file.   I think this would be a perfect project and a good model to lead with. Making some calculations the returns could be within 5 years on an average if on oil or LPG if done with a upgrade of the toilet and shower block. 

replied on 21/02/2019 18:39

Posted on 21/02/2019 18:39

Try this!

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/12267629/renewable_energy_on_club_sites.pdf

An Extract:

Four years ago the Club considered renewable forms of energy and we instigated two sites that were
developed and monitored for performance to assist the Club going forward as to what and where
renewable energy systems will benefit the Club AND the environment. Several systems have been
installed since, renewable energy is an ever improving industry and renewable systems are now
becoming more feasible in respect of their investment cost. However with such a vast Estate the
Club already heavily invests to maintain the network and a conscious decision to increase this
necessary investment with renewable has to be justified against its return on that investment
The current Building Regulations under Part L (conservation of fuel and power) make it a necessity to
carry out detailed thermal modelling and design modelling which require all new buildings to be
energy efficient which usually requires renewable systems to be incorporated to obtain Building
Regulation approval.
The Club has, since these initial “trials” incorporated the following renewable forms of energy
Ground source heat pumps (using the heat from the ground several meters below the surface to
“pre heat” water for space heating) these have been incorporated at both Poolsbrook and Teasdale
developments
Air source heat pumps (extracting the external heat in the surrounding air to “pre heat” ~ a reverse
to refrigeration) we have installed air source at Bridlington and Strathclyde (used for space heating)
Solar thermal panels convert solar energy into heat and is another form of pre-heat which pre heats
the mains water delivered to site for our hot water to our toilet blocks, solar thermal has been
introduced at Poolsbrook, Ramslade, Bridlington and Teesdale
Photo photovoltaic panels (PV) converts’ solar energy into electricity and can be feed into our
buildings directly for “free electricity” we have used PV at a number of sites including Ramslade,
Poolsbrook, Teesdale, Strathclyde and Bridlington.
The above are renewable systems but there are more “savings” in energy made by ensuring air
tightness, good standards of thermal insulation, energy efficient plant and equipment and the right
controls and management of the installed systems

brue replied on 21/02/2019 18:44

Posted on 21/02/2019 18:44

Thanks EasyT. I wonder if they'll give an award to the most environmentally friendly van this year...I bet they don't! 

Cornersteady replied on 21/02/2019 18:50

Posted on 21/02/2019 18:39 by

Try this!

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/12267629/renewable_energy_on_club_sites.pdf

An Extract:

Four years ago the Club considered renewable forms of energy and we instigated two sites that were
developed and monitored for performance to assist the Club going forward as to what and where
renewable energy systems will benefit the Club AND the environment. Several systems have been
installed since, renewable energy is an ever improving industry and renewable systems are now
becoming more feasible in respect of their investment cost. However with such a vast Estate the
Club already heavily invests to maintain the network and a conscious decision to increase this
necessary investment with renewable has to be justified against its return on that investment
The current Building Regulations under Part L (conservation of fuel and power) make it a necessity to
carry out detailed thermal modelling and design modelling which require all new buildings to be
energy efficient which usually requires renewable systems to be incorporated to obtain Building
Regulation approval.
The Club has, since these initial “trials” incorporated the following renewable forms of energy
Ground source heat pumps (using the heat from the ground several meters below the surface to
“pre heat” water for space heating) these have been incorporated at both Poolsbrook and Teasdale
developments
Air source heat pumps (extracting the external heat in the surrounding air to “pre heat” ~ a reverse
to refrigeration) we have installed air source at Bridlington and Strathclyde (used for space heating)
Solar thermal panels convert solar energy into heat and is another form of pre-heat which pre heats
the mains water delivered to site for our hot water to our toilet blocks, solar thermal has been
introduced at Poolsbrook, Ramslade, Bridlington and Teesdale
Photo photovoltaic panels (PV) converts’ solar energy into electricity and can be feed into our
buildings directly for “free electricity” we have used PV at a number of sites including Ramslade,
Poolsbrook, Teesdale, Strathclyde and Bridlington.
The above are renewable systems but there are more “savings” in energy made by ensuring air
tightness, good standards of thermal insulation, energy efficient plant and equipment and the right
controls and management of the installed systems

Posted on 21/02/2019 18:50

The Op should be happy with that then, he can move onto Travelodge?

replied on 21/02/2019 19:03

Posted on 21/02/2019 19:03

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Not Mike replied on 27/02/2019 19:47

Posted on 27/02/2019 19:47

Whats the cost of heating your caravan?  We have a super duper modern van, with high levels of insulation (but even higher levels of ventilation holes).  We were on a recently revamped CL in wales that had a electricity meter at each pitch. The electricity we were using to heat the van, while we were in, was costing the CL owner about £2.50 a day.  A ridiculous amount to heat a caravan.  This was not at a cold time of the year ... it might have been Easter.

I expect the energy cost of communal facilities on a club site are far less than the costs of heating the caravans.

 

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